From: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RESEND] [PATCH] VFS: make file->f_pos access atomic on 32bit arch
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:01:32 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081009130131.GV25780@parisc-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081009122319.GC1623@ucw.cz>
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 02:23:19PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Tue 2008-10-07 20:52:09, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > And it's worth saying that letter-of-the-standard arguments aren't
> > necessarily enough. Linux does not honour the POSIX guarantee that
> > writes are atomic (if they cross page boundaries, it's not certain).
> > This seems like even more of a corner case to me.
>
> We have append-only files, and normal users should not be able to work
> around that restriction.
Is it possible to work around this restriction by exploiting this?
IS_APPEND() forces the user to have O_APPEND in their flags.
O_APPEND is only checked in generic_write_checks() where it sets '*pos'
to i_size.
For the majority of filesystems, generic_write_checks() is called from
__generic_file_aio_write_nolock. __generic_file_aio_write_nolock is
only called from generic_file_aio_write_nolock (which passes the address
of a kiocb->ki_pos) and generic_file_aio_write (same).
The filesystems that call generic_write_checks() directly are:
XFS (xfs_write): Passes the address of a local variable
OCFS2 (ocfs2_file_aio_write): Passes the address of a ki_pos
CIFS (cifs_user_write): Not sure.
NFS (nfs_file_direct_write): "Note that O_APPEND is not supported".
NTFS (ntfs_file_aio_write_nolock): Address of a local variable
FUSE (fuse_file_aio_write): Address of a local variable
FUSE (fuse_direct_write): Not sure.
So the only two that might be affected are CIFS and FUSE (O_DIRECT?!) as
far as I can tell. I'm having a hard time believing this is a security
problem.
--
Matthew Wilcox Intel Open Source Technology Centre
"Bill, look, we understand that you're interested in selling us this
operating system, but compare it to ours. We can't possibly take such
a retrograde step."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-10-09 13:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-07 5:07 [RESEND] [PATCH] VFS: make file->f_pos access atomic on 32bit arch Hisashi Hifumi
2008-10-07 6:43 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 10:11 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2008-10-07 10:29 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 16:27 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-07 17:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-07 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-08 2:35 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-08 2:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-09 12:23 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-09 12:49 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-10-09 13:01 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2008-10-09 13:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-09 14:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-09 17:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-10-08 4:48 ` Hisashi Hifumi
2008-10-08 5:10 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-08 5:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-08 6:28 ` Andrew Morton
2008-10-08 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-08 8:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-10-08 8:48 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-08 9:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-10-09 21:51 ` dcg
2008-10-10 2:25 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-09 12:16 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-08 0:40 ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-07 18:00 ` Matthew Wilcox
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