From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: autofs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] autofs4: allow RCU-walk to walk through autofs4.
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:51:01 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140729115101.0805ecd8@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1405592252.20621.63.camel@perseus.fritz.box>
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:17:32 +0800 Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 18:04 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > If there some documentation about the interactions between the automountd and
> > the kernel?
>
> Not really, only the ioctl interaction described in
> Documentation/filesystems/autofs4-mount-control.txt
>
> > It looks like:
> > With V5, every name in the root directory gets something mounted on it,
> > either another autofs or the target filesystem.
> > With V4, you don't mount an autofs onto an autofs, but when a name in the
> > root is automounted, all the names beneath there are created and the
> > target filesystems are mounted before the top level automount is
> > acknowledged.
> >
> > Does that sound at all right (I suspect I haven't explained it very clearly).
>
> Mostly, but let me try and simplify it (or perhaps confuse you even more
> and bore you as a bonus, ;)) and offer a broader picture.
Thanks for going into all that detail! Having read that, and read the code
(a few times) and having tried to document it myself I think I really
understand it all now.
I wanted to be sure I understood from the perspective of what the module
actually supports rather than just how the automount daemon uses it, so I put
together a document describing the module. At 3000 words, I'm not sure
whether to call it "verbose" or "thorough". I'll post it separately.
I did discover one thing that is important for the RCU-walk work.
If you have a "root-less multimount" then the top-level directory will have
DCACHE_NEED_AUTOMOUNT set even though it is not a mount-trap.
As it contains a sub-directory (or more), d_manage will return -EISDIR so
normal REF-walking will side-step d_automount and it will be treated as a
normal directory.
However in RCU-walk mode, d_manage cannot usefully return -EISDIR so the VFS
will always drop into REF-walk mode, which negates some of the value of my
RCU-walk patches.
I see two ways to fix this:
1- clear DCACHE_NEED_AUTOMOUNT when creating a subdir or symlink, just like
we do with protocol-version 4
2- teach the VFS to accept -EISDIR from d_manage and to ignore
DCACHE_NEED_AUTOMOUNT in that case. I have a patch to do this and it is
fairly straight forward.
I think I prefer 2 (it seems easier to document:-) but thought I'd ask if you
have an opinion before I post it (I haven't even tested it properly yet).
Thanks,
NeilBrown
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-09 23:41 [PATCH 0/6] autofs4: support RCU-walk NeilBrown
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 2/6] autofs4: remove a redundant assignment NeilBrown
2014-07-16 3:27 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 5/6] autofs4: avoid taking fs_lock during rcu-walk NeilBrown
2014-07-16 9:52 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 6/6] autofs4: don't take spinlock when not needed in autofs4_lookup_expiring NeilBrown
2014-07-16 3:42 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-16 6:10 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 4/6] autofs4: factor should_expire() out of autofs4_expire_indirect NeilBrown
2014-07-14 0:53 ` [PATCH 4/6 v2] " NeilBrown
2014-07-15 3:48 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-15 4:05 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-15 7:44 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-16 7:50 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-17 4:34 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 1/6] autofs4: remove unused autofs4_ispending() NeilBrown
2014-07-16 3:26 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-09 23:41 ` [PATCH 3/6] autofs4: allow RCU-walk to walk through autofs4 NeilBrown
2014-07-16 4:44 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-16 5:51 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-16 6:56 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-17 5:00 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-17 8:04 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-17 10:17 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-29 1:51 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-07-29 6:37 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-10 7:43 ` [PATCH 0/6] autofs4: support RCU-walk Ian Kent
2014-07-10 7:45 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-10 8:25 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-11 2:49 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-16 3:24 ` Ian Kent
2014-07-16 6:00 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-16 7:21 ` Ian Kent
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