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From: "Mikołaj Lenczewski" <miko.lenczewski@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: ryan.roberts@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
	yang@os.amperecomputing.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will@kernel.org, joro@8bytes.org, jean-philippe@linaro.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, joey.gouly@arm.com, oliver.upton@linux.dev,
	james.morse@arm.com, broonie@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jgg@ziepe.ca, nicolinc@nvidia.com,
	mshavit@google.com, jsnitsel@redhat.com, smostafa@google.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64/mm: Elide tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:52:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250303115244.GB74129@e133081.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ff27dbb-401b-4793-be70-1ff9c8010e4a@redhat.com>

> > I think I understand what you mean. I agree that it is possible for a
> > concurrent walk to see an invalid TLBI state, if it is on the same TLB
> > that the repaint is happening on. For other TLBs, the flush has not yet
> > propagated our invalidated PTEs (from `__ptep_get_and_clear()`) though?
> 
> What I am saying is: if there is no TLB entry yet, HW will walk the page
> table to find no present PTE and trigger a fault.

Yes, that is 100% correct. I believe that this is unavoidable.

> > That invalidation will only be seen by other TLBs after the
> > `__flush_tlb_range()`, so we should save a few faults because only
> > "local" threads will ever see the invalid entry, as opposed to all
> > threads that try to read our modified range?
> 
> So what you say is, that deferring the flush means that if there is already
> a TLB entry, flushing deferred reduces the likelihood that a page table walk
> is triggered that could find no present PTE: consequently, reducing the
> likelihood that a page fault is triggered.
> 
> (I use the word likelihood, because I assume other action could result in a
> TLB entry getting flushed in the meantime, such as TLB entry reuse)
> 
> Correct?

Yes, and your language here is clearer than the original commit message
(and cover letter). Will amend it to be closer to your wording.

-- 
Kind regards,
Mikołaj Lenczewski

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-28 18:24 [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: Add BBM Level 2 cpu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 21:16   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01  1:29   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01  2:45     ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03  9:40       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:40         ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:55         ` Yang Shi
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arm64/mm: Delay tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2 Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64/mm: Elide " Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03  9:49     ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 10:55         ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 11:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 11:52             ` Mikołaj Lenczewski [this message]
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] iommu/arm: Add BBM Level 2 smmu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 19:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  8:49     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2025-03-03 10:31       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 16:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03 19:03           ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-04 14:26             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-04 16:02               ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-04 16:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-11 14:37                   ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-01  1:32   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03 10:17     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03 10:32       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:56       ` Yang Shi
2025-03-11 10:17       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 10:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-11 12:16           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 13:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() David Hildenbrand

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