From: "Mikołaj Lenczewski" <miko.lenczewski@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: ryan.roberts@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
yang@os.amperecomputing.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64/mm: Elide tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:52:44 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250303115244.GB74129@e133081.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ff27dbb-401b-4793-be70-1ff9c8010e4a@redhat.com>
> > I think I understand what you mean. I agree that it is possible for a
> > concurrent walk to see an invalid TLBI state, if it is on the same TLB
> > that the repaint is happening on. For other TLBs, the flush has not yet
> > propagated our invalidated PTEs (from `__ptep_get_and_clear()`) though?
>
> What I am saying is: if there is no TLB entry yet, HW will walk the page
> table to find no present PTE and trigger a fault.
Yes, that is 100% correct. I believe that this is unavoidable.
> > That invalidation will only be seen by other TLBs after the
> > `__flush_tlb_range()`, so we should save a few faults because only
> > "local" threads will ever see the invalid entry, as opposed to all
> > threads that try to read our modified range?
>
> So what you say is, that deferring the flush means that if there is already
> a TLB entry, flushing deferred reduces the likelihood that a page table walk
> is triggered that could find no present PTE: consequently, reducing the
> likelihood that a page fault is triggered.
>
> (I use the word likelihood, because I assume other action could result in a
> TLB entry getting flushed in the meantime, such as TLB entry reuse)
>
> Correct?
Yes, and your language here is clearer than the original commit message
(and cover letter). Will amend it to be closer to your wording.
--
Kind regards,
Mikołaj Lenczewski
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-03 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-28 18:24 [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: Add BBM Level 2 cpu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 21:16 ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01 1:29 ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01 2:45 ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03 9:40 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 9:40 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:55 ` Yang Shi
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arm64/mm: Delay tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2 Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64/mm: Elide " Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 9:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 9:49 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 9:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 10:55 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 11:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 11:52 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski [this message]
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] iommu/arm: Add BBM Level 2 smmu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 19:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03 8:49 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2025-03-03 10:31 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 16:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03 19:03 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-04 14:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-04 16:02 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-04 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-11 14:37 ` Robin Murphy
2025-03-01 1:32 ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03 10:17 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03 10:32 ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:56 ` Yang Shi
2025-03-11 10:17 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 10:58 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-11 12:16 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 13:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03 9:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() David Hildenbrand
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