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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
Cc: "Mikołaj Lenczewski" <miko.lenczewski@arm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] iommu/arm: Add BBM Level 2 smmu feature
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:37:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58c5e76a-e320-4296-8292-1ddf3f7ba56d@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250304161943.GD5011@ziepe.ca>

On 04/03/2025 4:19 pm, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:02:20PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 04/03/2025 14:26, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 07:03:42PM +0000, Mikołaj Lenczewski wrote:
>>>
>>>> For example, if we use BBML2 for kernel mappings, does that require us
>>>> to repaint all kernel mappings when disabling BBML2 on smmu attach? I
>>>> am not sure, but definitely something to be worked out.
>>>
>>> No, it would be a per-mm_struct basis only if we did something like
>>> that
>>>
>>> When the SMMU driver puts a SVA on top of the mm_struct it would
>>> disable BBML2 usage only for that mm_struct and it's contained VMAs.
>>
>> I guess we would need to figure out some synchonization mechanism if disabling
>> BBML2 dynaically per-mm. If there was already a BBML2 operation in flight would
>> want to wait for it to end. But that's a problem to solve if/when it's shown to
>> be needed, I think.
> 
> I have a feeling we can piggyback on the mmu notifiers to achieve this
> as all the changes to the PTEs should be bracketed by notifier
> callbacks..
> 
> Let's hope it isn't needed.

Yup, as mentioned previously, this is largely theoretical and at worst 
only a risk of affecting 3rd-party SMMU implementations. Arm's 
implementations from MMU-700 onwards do support BBML2; MMU-600 *might* 
actually be OK as well, but it predates the definition of the feature, 
and there are more practical reasons not to integrate a decade-old SMMU 
design with brand new CPUs anyway.

Thanks,
Robin.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-11 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-28 18:24 [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: Add BBM Level 2 cpu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 21:16   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01  1:29   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-01  2:45     ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03  9:40       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:40         ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:55         ` Yang Shi
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arm64/mm: Delay tlbi in contpte_convert() under BBML2 Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64/mm: Elide " Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:17   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03  9:49     ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03  9:57       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 10:55         ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 11:42           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-03 11:52             ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 18:24 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] iommu/arm: Add BBM Level 2 smmu feature Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-02-28 19:32   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03  8:49     ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2025-03-03 10:31       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 16:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-03 19:03           ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-04 14:26             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-04 16:02               ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-04 16:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-11 14:37                   ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2025-03-01  1:32   ` Yang Shi
2025-03-03 10:17     ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03 10:32       ` Mikołaj Lenczewski
2025-03-03 19:56       ` Yang Shi
2025-03-11 10:17       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 10:58         ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-11 12:16           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2025-03-11 13:20             ` Ryan Roberts
2025-03-03  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Initial BBML2 support for contpte_convert() David Hildenbrand

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