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* [RFC][PATCH v2] sched/core: Tweak wait_task_inactive() to force dequeue sched_delayed tasks
@ 2025-04-25 19:57 John Stultz
  2025-04-28  5:13 ` K Prateek Nayak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: John Stultz @ 2025-04-25 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: LKML
  Cc: John Stultz, Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, Juri Lelli,
	Vincent Guittot, Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt, Ben Segall,
	Mel Gorman, Valentin Schneider, K Prateek Nayak, kernel-team,
	peter-yc.chang

It was reported that in 6.12, smpboot_create_threads() was
taking much longer then in 6.6.

I narrowed down the call path to:
 smpboot_create_threads()
 -> kthread_create_on_cpu()
    -> kthread_bind()
       -> __kthread_bind_mask()
          ->wait_task_inactive()

Where in wait_task_inactive() we were regularly hitting the
queued case, which sets a 1 tick timeout, which when called
multiple times in a row, accumulates quickly into a long
delay.

I noticed disabling the DELAY_DEQUEUE sched feature recovered
the performance, and it seems the newly create tasks are usually
sched_delayed and left on the runqueue.

So in wait_task_inactive() when we see the task
p->se.sched_delayed, manually dequeue the sched_delayed task
with DEQUEUE_DELAYED, so we don't have to constantly wait a
tick.

This seems to work, but I've only lightly tested it, so I'd love
close review and feedback in case I've missed something in
wait_task_inactive(), or if there is a simpler alternative
approach.

NOTE: Peter did highlight[1] his general distaste for the
kthread_bind() through wait_task_inactive() functions, which
suggests a deeper rework might be better, but I'm not familiar
enough with all its users to have a sense of how that might be
done, and this fix seems to address the problem and be more
easily backported to 6.12-stable, so I wanted to submit it
again, as a potentially more short-term solution.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250422085628.GA14170@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/

Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: kernel-team@android.com
Reported-by: peter-yc.chang@mediatek.com
Signed-off-by: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
---
v2:
* Rework & simplify the check as suggested by K Prateek Nayak
* Added Reported-by tag for proper attribution
---
 kernel/sched/core.c | 6 ++++++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index c81cf642dba05..b986cd2fb19b7 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -2283,6 +2283,12 @@ unsigned long wait_task_inactive(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int match_state
 		 * just go back and repeat.
 		 */
 		rq = task_rq_lock(p, &rf);
+		/*
+		 * If task is sched_delayed, force dequeue it, to avoid always
+		 * hitting the tick timeout in the queued case
+		 */
+		if (p->se.sched_delayed)
+			dequeue_task(rq, p, DEQUEUE_SLEEP | DEQUEUE_DELAYED);
 		trace_sched_wait_task(p);
 		running = task_on_cpu(rq, p);
 		queued = task_on_rq_queued(p);
-- 
2.49.0.850.g28803427d3-goog


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* Re: [RFC][PATCH v2] sched/core: Tweak wait_task_inactive() to force dequeue sched_delayed tasks
  2025-04-25 19:57 [RFC][PATCH v2] sched/core: Tweak wait_task_inactive() to force dequeue sched_delayed tasks John Stultz
@ 2025-04-28  5:13 ` K Prateek Nayak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: K Prateek Nayak @ 2025-04-28  5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Stultz, LKML
  Cc: Ingo Molnar, Peter Zijlstra, Juri Lelli, Vincent Guittot,
	Dietmar Eggemann, Steven Rostedt, Ben Segall, Mel Gorman,
	Valentin Schneider, kernel-team, peter-yc.chang

Hello John,

On 4/26/2025 1:27 AM, John Stultz wrote:
> It was reported that in 6.12, smpboot_create_threads() was
> taking much longer then in 6.6.
> 
> I narrowed down the call path to:
>   smpboot_create_threads()
>   -> kthread_create_on_cpu()
>      -> kthread_bind()
>         -> __kthread_bind_mask()
>            ->wait_task_inactive()
> 
> Where in wait_task_inactive() we were regularly hitting the
> queued case, which sets a 1 tick timeout, which when called
> multiple times in a row, accumulates quickly into a long
> delay.
> 
> I noticed disabling the DELAY_DEQUEUE sched feature recovered
> the performance, and it seems the newly create tasks are usually
> sched_delayed and left on the runqueue.
> 
> So in wait_task_inactive() when we see the task
> p->se.sched_delayed, manually dequeue the sched_delayed task
> with DEQUEUE_DELAYED, so we don't have to constantly wait a
> tick.
> 
> This seems to work, but I've only lightly tested it, so I'd love
> close review and feedback in case I've missed something in
> wait_task_inactive(), or if there is a simpler alternative
> approach.
> 
> NOTE: Peter did highlight[1] his general distaste for the
> kthread_bind() through wait_task_inactive() functions, which
> suggests a deeper rework might be better, but I'm not familiar
> enough with all its users to have a sense of how that might be
> done, and this fix seems to address the problem and be more
> easily backported to 6.12-stable, so I wanted to submit it
> again, as a potentially more short-term solution.
> 
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250422085628.GA14170@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/
> 
> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
> Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
> Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
> Cc: kernel-team@android.com
> Reported-by: peter-yc.chang@mediatek.com

Perhaps a Fixes tag to help with backporting:

Fixes: 152e11f6df29 ("sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue")

other than thank, feel free to include:

Tested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek

> Signed-off-by: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>> ---
> v2:
> * Rework & simplify the check as suggested by K Prateek Nayak
> * Added Reported-by tag for proper attribution
> ---
>   kernel/sched/core.c | 6 ++++++
>   1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> index c81cf642dba05..b986cd2fb19b7 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> @@ -2283,6 +2283,12 @@ unsigned long wait_task_inactive(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int match_state
>   		 * just go back and repeat.
>   		 */
>   		rq = task_rq_lock(p, &rf);
> +		/*
> +		 * If task is sched_delayed, force dequeue it, to avoid always
> +		 * hitting the tick timeout in the queued case
> +		 */
> +		if (p->se.sched_delayed)
> +			dequeue_task(rq, p, DEQUEUE_SLEEP | DEQUEUE_DELAYED);
>   		trace_sched_wait_task(p);
>   		running = task_on_cpu(rq, p);
>   		queued = task_on_rq_queued(p);



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