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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
Cc: Yuri Andriaccio <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Yuri Andriaccio <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 09:01:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260507070103.GF3126523@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260506215802.4b4130ce@nowhere>

On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 09:58:02PM +0200, luca abeni wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Tue, 5 May 2026 16:59:22 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 11:38:22PM +0200, Yuri Andriaccio wrote:
> > > From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
> > > 
> > > Make rt_runtime_us and rt_period_us virtual files accessible also
> > > to the cgroup v2 controller, effectively enabling the
> > > RT_GROUP_SCHED mechanism to cgroups v2.  
> > 
> > Can we have a blub about why only strict periodic servers; eg. why no
> > sporadic? and such...
> 
> Maybe I am misunderstanding your question, anyway: the file is called
> "rt_runtime_us", but the scheduling algorithm used to schedule the
> cgroup is SCHED_DEADLINE.
> So, we do not use a strictly periodic server, but a CBS, that can also
> support sporadic / non-periodic activations.

The interface only exposes runtime and period, as such we can only
configure strict periodic servers (with implicit deadline). And I'm
thinking this makes sense, esp. to start off with, but I also think it
makes sense to explicitly call that out.

State that this does not allow configuring sporadic servers, and
hand-wave a reason for why not.

Or, if we struggle to justify it, perhaps add deadline, dunno.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-14-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:04   ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-15-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:16   ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-16-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:36   ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-19-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:59   ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-06 19:58     ` luca abeni
2026-05-07  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-05-07 13:30         ` luca abeni
2026-05-07 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-20-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:35     ` Juri Lelli
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-21-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:15   ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 19:56     ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 10:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:03         ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-07 15:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 16:39           ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:29             ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-11 17:52               ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 16:44         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:40         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:15           ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-11 17:37         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 14:30       ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:28         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-23-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:20   ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] sched/rt: Add rt-cgroup migration functions Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 15:24   ` Peter Zijlstra

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