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From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Yuri Andriaccio <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Yuri Andriaccio <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mkoutny@suse.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 18:44:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260507184450.07ce0638@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260507105331.GQ1026330@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hi,

On Thu, 7 May 2026 12:53:31 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
[...]
> > - This has the same problem with cgroup1's rt cgroup sched support
> > where there is no way to have a permissive default configuration,
> > which means that users who don't really care about distributing rt
> > shares hierarchically would get blocked from running rt processes
> > by default, which basically forces distros to disable rt cgroup
> > sched support. This is not new but it'd be a shame to put in all
> > the work and the end result is that most people don't even have
> > access to the feature.  
> 
> Right, but cgroup-v2 allows enabling/disabling specific controllers
> for a (sub)-hierarchy, right? So if the controller is not enabled (by
> default), it will fall back to putting the tasks in whatever parent
> does have it on, and by default the root group would have and would
> accept tasks.

If I understand well, this is similar to what I was thinking about:
having a default that allows creating FIFO/RR tasks (and execute them
without runtime control - so, without being served by a dl server)


> Additionally, I think we want a flag to allow non-priv tasks to use RT
> inside the controller -- after all, these tasks would be subject to
> strict bandwidth controls and cannot burn the system like
> unbounded/root FIFO tasks can.

This is something Yuri and I wanted to propose as a follow-up patch,
once there is an agreement on the patchset (should be a pretty simple
change :)



				Luca

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-14-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:04   ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-15-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:16   ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-16-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:36   ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-19-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:59   ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-06 19:58     ` luca abeni
2026-05-07  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 13:30         ` luca abeni
2026-05-07 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-20-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:35     ` Juri Lelli
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-21-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:15   ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 19:56     ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 10:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:03         ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-07 15:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 16:39           ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:29             ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-11 17:52               ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 16:44         ` luca abeni [this message]
2026-05-11  9:40         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:15           ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-11 17:37         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 14:30       ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:28         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-23-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:20   ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] sched/rt: Add rt-cgroup migration functions Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 15:24   ` Peter Zijlstra

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