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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Yuri Andriaccio <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>,
	Yuri Andriaccio <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mkoutny@suse.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 17:03:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afypzfyH0M7Rcge2@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260507105331.GQ1026330@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 07/05/26 12:53, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 09:56:58AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:

...

> > - However, the cpu controller is a threaded controller which means that it
> >   can have threaded sub-hierarchy where the no-internal-process rule doesn't
> >   apply. This was created explicitly for cpu controller. The proposed change
> >   blocks it effectively forcing cpu controller into regular domain
> >   controller behavior subject to no-internal-process rule. Note these are
> >   enforced at controller granularity and this means that users who use the
> >   threaded mode will be forced to pick between the two.
> 
> Right... this then means we need two controls, one to do hierarchical
> bandwidth distribution, and one to assign bandwidth to the internal
> group -- which is then subject to its own bandwidth distribution
> constraint.
> 
> This might be a little confusing, but there is no way around that
> AFAICT.

Just to check if I'm following, you are thinking something like below?

groupA/
  cpu.rt.max = "50 50 100"       <- 0.5 from root
  cpu.rt.internal = "20 20 100"  <- 0.2 from groupA for threads at this
                                        level
  + threadA                               <
  + threadB                               <
  +- group1/
       cpu.rt.max = "30 30 100"  <- 0.3 from groupA
       + threadC

And we still keep it flat, so 2 dl-entities (per CPU), one handles
threads at groupA level and the other threads inside group1?

Thanks,
Juri


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-14-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:04   ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-15-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:16   ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-16-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:36   ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-19-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:59   ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-06 19:58     ` luca abeni
2026-05-07  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 13:30         ` luca abeni
2026-05-07 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-20-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:35     ` Juri Lelli
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-21-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:15   ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 19:56     ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 10:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:03         ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2026-05-07 15:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 16:39           ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:29             ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-11 17:52               ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 16:44         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:40         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:15           ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-11 17:37         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 14:30       ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:28         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-23-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:20   ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] sched/rt: Add rt-cgroup migration functions Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 15:24   ` Peter Zijlstra

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