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From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Yuri Andriaccio <yurand2000@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Yuri Andriaccio <yuri.andriaccio@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 15:30:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260507153055.33cc4415@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260507070103.GF3126523@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 7 May 2026 09:01:03 +0200
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 09:58:02PM +0200, luca abeni wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > On Tue, 5 May 2026 16:59:22 +0200
> > Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 11:38:22PM +0200, Yuri Andriaccio wrote:  
> > > > From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
> > > > 
> > > > Make rt_runtime_us and rt_period_us virtual files accessible
> > > > also to the cgroup v2 controller, effectively enabling the
> > > > RT_GROUP_SCHED mechanism to cgroups v2.    
> > > 
> > > Can we have a blub about why only strict periodic servers; eg.
> > > why no sporadic? and such...  
> > 
> > Maybe I am misunderstanding your question, anyway: the file is
> > called "rt_runtime_us", but the scheduling algorithm used to
> > schedule the cgroup is SCHED_DEADLINE.
> > So, we do not use a strictly periodic server, but a CBS, that can
> > also support sporadic / non-periodic activations.  
> 
> The interface only exposes runtime and period, as such we can only
> configure strict periodic servers (with implicit deadline). And I'm
> thinking this makes sense, esp. to start off with, but I also think it
> makes sense to explicitly call that out.

Ah, I understand now: you are thinking about SCHED_DEADLINE with
deadline<period, right?
(sorry, I originally misunderstood and I was thinking about sporadic
activation patterns, which are already supported)

Yes, I think we can easily add the possibility to also set the
"deadline" parameter (with deafault "deadline=period")



			Thanks,
				Luca

> 
> State that this does not allow configuring sporadic servers, and
> hand-wave a reason for why not.
> 
> Or, if we struggle to justify it, perhaps add deadline, dunno.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260430213835.62217-1-yurand2000@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-14-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:04   ` [RFC PATCH v5 13/29] sched/rt: Implement dl-server operations for rt-cgroups Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-15-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 13:16   ` [RFC PATCH v5 14/29] sched/rt: Update task event callbacks for HCBS scheduling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-16-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:36   ` [RFC PATCH v5 15/29] sched/rt: Update rt-cgroup schedulability checks Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-19-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 14:59   ` [RFC PATCH v5 18/29] sched/core: Cgroup v2 support Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-06 19:58     ` luca abeni
2026-05-07  7:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 13:30         ` luca abeni [this message]
2026-05-07 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-20-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:01   ` [RFC PATCH v5 19/29] sched/rt: Remove support for cgroups-v1 Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:35     ` Juri Lelli
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-21-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:15   ` [RFC PATCH v5 20/29] sched/deadline: Allow deeper hierarchies of RT cgroups Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 19:56     ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 10:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 15:03         ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-07 15:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-07 16:39           ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:29             ` Juri Lelli
2026-05-11 17:52               ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 16:44         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11  9:40         ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:15           ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-11 17:37         ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-07 14:30       ` luca abeni
2026-05-11 18:28         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <20260430213835.62217-23-yurand2000@gmail.com>
2026-05-05 15:20   ` [RFC PATCH v5 22/29] sched/rt: Add rt-cgroup migration functions Peter Zijlstra
2026-05-05 15:24   ` Peter Zijlstra

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