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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: track compound page order in struct mem_section
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:15:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260716101559.2e640e99@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260702093821.2740183-3-songmuchun@bytedance.com>

On Thu,  2 Jul 2026 17:38:06 +0800
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com> wrote:

> HugeTLB and DAX both rely on vmemmap optimization, but sparsemem does
> not record what compound page order a section is populated with.
> 
> As a result, code that needs this information has to open-code
> separate handling across users of vmemmap optimization.  It also
> prevents other memory management code, such as struct page
> initialization, from skipping initialization of shared vmemmap pages
> when needed.
> 
> Track the compound page order in struct mem_section and provide small
> helpers to access it.  A compound page larger than a section naturally
> carries the same order across all covered sections.
> 
> This is a preparatory change for consolidating vmemmap optimization
> handling and for letting later code make initialization decisions
> based on the section's compound page order.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/mmzone.h | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 32 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> index 1353bcf7b712..bacd89572c5c 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> @@ -2015,6 +2015,14 @@ struct mem_section {
>  	 */
>  	struct page_ext *page_ext;
>  #endif
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
> +	/*
> +	 * The order of compound pages in this section. Typically, the section
> +	 * holds compound pages of this order; a larger compound page will span
> +	 * multiple sections.
> +	 */
> +	unsigned int order;
> +#endif
>  };

That increases the size of the structure by 8 bytes for a value that
would fit in one (or 16 bytes to maintain power-of-2 size).
I'm pretty sure this array is big - so that is significant.

I've looked up some constants...
On x86-64 each section is (1 << 27) bytes or 128M.
A page contains 256 small 'struct mm_section' so covers 32GB of physical address.
That is pretty much the memory limit for a 'normal' system.
So even doubling the structure size only uses 2 pages for 32GB memory.
Even packing the structure (or making it 48 bytes) would still use 2 pages.
Of course there are the big servers with TB of memory...

A more interesting problem is the size of the 'page pointer' array.
That is sized for physical addresses right at the top of the 52bits
supported by 5-level page tables.
I make that 52-27-8+3 = 20 bits or 1MB, doubling to 2MB if struct mem_section
is increased to 32 bytes.
However, in practise, I suspect that the actual upper limit for physical
addresses is much lower.
 
It is also worth noting that CONFIG_PAGE_EXTENSION is a debug option.
It probably doesn't matter about efficiency if it is enabled.

You could change the code to use % instead of & - makes no difference if
the size is a power of 2. That is generally safer.

Then do:
#if defined(CONFIG_PAGE_EXTENSION) || defined (CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP)
	struct page_ext *page_ext;
	unsigned int order;
#endif
With an extra comment about keeping power of 2 size for effifiency.

	David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-16  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02  9:38 [PATCH 00/17] mm: Introduce section-based vmemmap optimization for HugeTLB Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 01/17] mm/sparse: drop power-of-2 size requirement for struct mem_section Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15  9:34   ` David Laight
2026-07-15 13:15     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15 15:52       ` David Laight
2026-07-16  6:51         ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 02/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: track compound page order in " Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15  6:42     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15  9:45       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  9:15   ` David Laight [this message]
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 03/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: introduce folio-oriented vmemmap optimization macros Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  7:38     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-16 10:04       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 04/17] mm/mm_init: skip initializing shared vmemmap tail pages Muchun Song
2026-07-09 10:45   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 12:31     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-09 13:05       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 13:23         ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15  9:11     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15  9:47       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 05/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: initialize shared tail vmemmap pages on allocation Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 06/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: support section-based vmemmap accounting Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-15 14:44     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-16  6:23       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  6:48         ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 07/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: support section-based vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  7:19     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 08/17] mm/sparse: mark memory sections present earlier Muchun Song
2026-07-09 10:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-09 12:35     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  7:15     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 09/17] mm/hugetlb: switch HugeTLB to section-based vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 10/17] mm/mm_init: factor out pfn_to_zone() Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-16  7:18     ` Muchun Song
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 11/17] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remove SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP_PREINIT support Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 12/17] mm/sparse: inline usemap allocation into sparse_init_nid() Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 13/17] mm/sparse: remove section_map_size() Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm/hugetlb: remove HUGE_BOOTMEM_HVO Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 15/17] mm/hugetlb: remove HUGE_BOOTMEM_CMA Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 16/17] mm/hugetlb: localize struct huge_bootmem_page Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-07-02  9:38 ` [PATCH 17/17] mm/hugetlb: localize HUGE_BOOTMEM_ZONES_VALID Muchun Song
2026-07-15  5:08   ` Mike Rapoport

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