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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Doug Nelson <doug.nelson@intel.com>,
	Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Skip useless sched_balance_running acquisition if load balance is not due
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2025 17:43:34 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <331fb3d6-33f3-4656-a134-3ab3a245e477@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250418092828.GP38216@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Hello Peter,

On 4/18/2025 2:58 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 10:56:04AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> On 4/17/2025 5:31 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> o Since this is a single flag across the entire system, it also implies
>>>>     CPUs cannon concurrently do load balancing across different NUMA
>>>>     domains which seems reasonable since a load balance at lower NUMA
>>>>     domain can potentially change the "nr_numa_running" and
>>>>     "nr_preferred_running" stats for the higher domain but if this is the
>>>>     case, a newidle balance at lower NUMA domain can interfere with a
>>>>     concurrent busy / newidle load balancing at higher NUMA domain.
>>>>     Is this expected? Should newidle balance be serialized too?
>>>
>>> Serializing new-idle might create too much idle time.
>>
>> In the context of busy and idle balancing, What are your thoughts on a
>> per sd "serialize' flag?
> 
> My sekret hope is that this push stuff can rid us all the idle balance
> bits. But yeah, early days on that.
> 
> Other than that, I don't quite see why we should split that, busy
> balancing is the one that runs more often and is the one that should be
> serialized to avoid too much cross node traffic and all that, no?
> 
> The idle thing is less often, why not limit that?

Makes sense. I'll add it to the set of my weekend experiment runs.

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-18 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-16  3:58 [PATCH] sched: Skip useless sched_balance_running acquisition if load balance is not due Tim Chen
2025-04-16  5:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  6:28   ` Chen, Yu C
2025-04-16  9:16     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  9:29       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  9:47         ` Vincent Guittot
2025-04-16 14:14           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 11:10             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-18 15:02             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-04-18 17:55               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 11:31           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-17 12:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-18  5:26               ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-18  9:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-18 12:13                   ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-04-16 16:19       ` Tim Chen
2025-04-16 17:11         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17  9:19         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 17:12           ` Tim Chen
2025-05-29  9:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-06-04  4:26 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-06-06 13:51 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-27 18:06   ` Mel Gorman

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