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From: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Doug Nelson <doug.nelson@intel.com>,
	Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Skip useless sched_balance_running acquisition if load balance is not due
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:28:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <667f2076-fbcd-4da7-8e4b-a8190a673355@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbe29b49-92af-4b8c-b7c8-3c15405e5f15@linux.ibm.com>

Hi Shrikanth,

On 4/16/2025 1:30 PM, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/16/25 09:28, Tim Chen wrote:
>> At load balance time, balance of last level cache domains and
>> above needs to be serialized. The scheduler checks the atomic var
>> sched_balance_running first and then see if time is due for a load
>> balance. This is an expensive operation as multiple CPUs can attempt
>> sched_balance_running acquisition at the same time.
>>
>> On a 2 socket Granite Rapid systems enabling sub-numa cluster and
>> running OLTP workloads, 7.6% of cpu cycles are spent on cmpxchg of
>> sched_balance_running.  Most of the time, a balance attempt is aborted
>> immediately after acquiring sched_balance_running as load balance time
>> is not due.
>>
>> Instead, check balance due time first before acquiring
>> sched_balance_running. This skips many useless acquisitions
>> of sched_balance_running and knocks the 7.6% CPU overhead on
>> sched_balance_domain() down to 0.05%.  Throughput of the OLTP workload
>> improved by 11%.
>>
> 
> Hi Tim.
> 
> Time check makes sense specially on large systems mainly due to NEWIDLE 
> balance.
> 

Could you elaborate a little on this statement? There is no timeout 
mechanism like periodic load balancer for the NEWLY_IDLE, right?


> One more point to add, A lot of time, the CPU which acquired 
> sched_balance_running,
> need not end up doing the load balance, since it not the CPU meant to do 
> the load balance.
> 
> This thread.
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/1e43e783-55e7-417f- 
> a1a7-503229eb163a@linux.ibm.com/
> 
> 
> Best thing probably is to acquire it if this CPU has passed the time 
> check and as well it is
> actually going to do load balance.
> 
> 

This is a good point, and we might only want to deal with periodic load
balancer rather than NEWLY_IDLE balance. Because the latter is too 
frequent and contention on the sched_balance_running might introduce
high cache contention.

thanks,
Chenyu

>> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
>> Reported-by: Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>
>> Tested-by: Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>
>> ---
>>   kernel/sched/fair.c | 16 ++++++++--------
>>   1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index e43993a4e580..5e5f7a770b2f 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -12220,13 +12220,13 @@ static void sched_balance_domains(struct rq 
>> *rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
>>           interval = get_sd_balance_interval(sd, busy);
>> -        need_serialize = sd->flags & SD_SERIALIZE;
>> -        if (need_serialize) {
>> -            if (atomic_cmpxchg_acquire(&sched_balance_running, 0, 1))
>> -                goto out;
>> -        }
>> -
>>           if (time_after_eq(jiffies, sd->last_balance + interval)) {
>> +            need_serialize = sd->flags & SD_SERIALIZE;
>> +            if (need_serialize) {
>> +                if (atomic_cmpxchg_acquire(&sched_balance_running, 0, 
>> 1))
>> +                    goto out;
>> +            }
>> +
>>               if (sched_balance_rq(cpu, rq, sd, idle, 
>> &continue_balancing)) {
>>                   /*
>>                    * The LBF_DST_PINNED logic could have changed
>> @@ -12238,9 +12238,9 @@ static void sched_balance_domains(struct rq 
>> *rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
>>               }
>>               sd->last_balance = jiffies;
>>               interval = get_sd_balance_interval(sd, busy);
>> +            if (need_serialize)
>> +                atomic_set_release(&sched_balance_running, 0);
>>           }
>> -        if (need_serialize)
>> -            atomic_set_release(&sched_balance_running, 0);
>>   out:
>>           if (time_after(next_balance, sd->last_balance + interval)) {
>>               next_balance = sd->last_balance + interval;
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-16  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-16  3:58 [PATCH] sched: Skip useless sched_balance_running acquisition if load balance is not due Tim Chen
2025-04-16  5:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  6:28   ` Chen, Yu C [this message]
2025-04-16  9:16     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  9:29       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-16  9:47         ` Vincent Guittot
2025-04-16 14:14           ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 11:10             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-18 15:02             ` Vincent Guittot
2025-04-18 17:55               ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 11:31           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-17 12:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-18  5:26               ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-18  9:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-18 12:13                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-16 16:19       ` Tim Chen
2025-04-16 17:11         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17  9:19         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-17 17:12           ` Tim Chen
2025-05-29  9:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-06-04  4:26 ` Chen, Yu C
2025-06-06 13:51 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-27 18:06   ` Mel Gorman

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