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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: "Siddha, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	"Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: smpnice work around for active_load_balance()
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:14:42 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4429ED92.9040602@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4429BC61.7020201@bigpond.net.au>

Peter Williams wrote:
> Siddha, Suresh B wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 05:00:50PM +1100, Peter Williams wrote:
[bits deleted]
>>
>> Even with no HT and MC, this patch has still has issues in the presence
>> of different priority tasks... consider a simple DP system and run two
>> instances of high priority tasks(simple infinite loop) and two normal 
>> priority
>> tasks. With "top" I observed that these normal priority tasks keep on 
>> jumping
>> from one processor to another... Ideally with smpnice, we would assume 
>> that each processor should have two tasks (one high priority and 
>> another one with normal priority) ..
> 
> Yes, but you are failing to take into account the effect of the other 
> tasks on your system (e.g. top) that run from time to time.  If their 
> burst of CPU use happens to coincide with some load balancing activity 
> they will cause an imbalance to be detected (that is different to that 
> which only considers your test tasks) and this will result in some tasks 
> being moved.  Beware the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle :-).

Notwithstanding the HUP, I've investigated this and have found that 
there is more instability than expected and that it is due to a silly 
bit of code (by me) at the end of find_busiest_queue() marked by the 
comment:

/* or if there's a reasonable chance that *imbalance is big
  * enough to cause a move
  */

that makes load balancing more aggressive.  The functionality it 
implemented should have been abandoned when the code was updated to use 
average run queue loads instead of SCHED_LOAD_SCALE in the code that 
handled small imbalances but wasn't.  I'll send Andrew a patch that 
removes the offending code shortly.

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-29  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-28  6:00 [PATCH] sched: smpnice work around for active_load_balance() Peter Williams
2006-03-28 19:25 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-03-28 22:44   ` Peter Williams
2006-03-29  2:14     ` Peter Williams [this message]
2006-03-29  2:52     ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-03-29  3:42       ` Peter Williams
2006-03-29 22:52         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-03-29 23:40           ` Peter Williams
2006-03-30  0:50             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-03-30  1:14               ` Peter Williams
2006-04-02  4:48                 ` smpnice loadbalancing with high priority tasks Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-02  7:08                   ` Peter Williams
2006-04-04  0:24                     ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-04  1:22                       ` Peter Williams
2006-04-04  1:34                         ` Peter Williams
2006-04-04  2:11                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-04  3:24                           ` Peter Williams
2006-04-04  4:34                             ` Peter Williams
2006-04-06  2:14                             ` Peter Williams
2006-04-20  1:24                     ` [patch] smpnice: don't consider sched groups which are lightly loaded for balancing Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-20  5:19                       ` Peter Williams
2006-04-20 16:54                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-20 23:11                           ` Peter Williams
2006-04-20 23:49                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-21  0:25                             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-21  0:28                             ` Peter Williams
2006-04-21  1:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-04-20 17:04                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-21  0:00                           ` Peter Williams
2006-04-03  1:04             ` [PATCH] sched: smpnice work around for active_load_balance() Peter Williams
2006-04-03 16:57               ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-04-03 23:11                 ` Peter Williams

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