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From: Oz Tiram <oz@shift-computing.de>
To: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: alexander.deucher@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com,
	airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drm/amd/amdgpu: add firmware file fallback for APU VBIOS discovery
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 18:35:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e2eaccf-823b-4db2-a4f3-451e5753af8d@shift-computing.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0478bdcd-dc55-4eeb-b7a3-6c5e625ac5c1@amd.com>

Hi Mario,

The GPU is internal. It's an AMD RADEON PRO W7800 48GB.
The kernel is built from gentoo-sources-6.18.35.

I will test the latest sys-kernel/vanilla-sources (7.1.3) and let you know.

Best regards,

Oz

On 7/8/26 15:13, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>
> On 7/8/26 08:10, Oz Tiram wrote:
>> Hi Mario,
>>
>>  > If you drop that - does this notice still come up?
>>
>> No, the notice does not appear without pci=realloc,assign-busses. The 
>> iGPU  stays at its POST bus (0x6A = 106), VFCT matches directly, and 
>> it fetches the VBIOS without any mismatch.
>>
>> However, dropping the kernel argument is not an option on this machine:
>> without it the discrete GPU (0x7449) fails to probe entirely:
>>
>>    amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: Fatal error during GPU init
>>    amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: probe with driver amdgpu failed with error -12
>>
>> The firmware BARs cannot be mapped without resource reallocation, so
>> pci=realloc,assign-busses is required for the dGPU, which in turn 
>> reassigns
>> the iGPU to bus 0x0B and triggers the mismatch your patch resolves.
>
> Got it; thanks for clarifying.  I would like to dig a little bit 
> futher into that though.  What kernel are you finding this behavior 
> and can it still reproduce with 7.2-rc2 if it's older? There was a 
> bunch of pci/realloc changes that happened in the last cycle that 
> might have helped this.
>
> Also; is it an eGPU (external) or dGPU (internal)?
>
> If it's an dGPU IMO this is arguably a BIOS issue that not enough 
> resources were applied in the first place.
>
> Thanks,
>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Oz
>>
>>
>> On 7/8/26 14:55, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>> Hi Oz,
>>>
>>> On 7/8/26 07:36, Oz Tiram wrote:
>>>> Hi Mario,
>>>>
>>>> Tested on a Morefine MNAS X1 AI Workstation (AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 8845HS 
>>>> / Radeon 780M iGPU) with pci=realloc,assign-busses.
>>>>
>>>> The VFCT entry for the iGPU has PCIBus=106 (0x6A, recorded at POST) 
>>>> while the
>>>> runtime bus is 11 (0x0B). Your patch fires exactly as expected:
>>>>
>>>>    amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: amdgpu: VFCT bus number mismatch: table 106 
>>>> ! = runtime 11,
>>>>        matching by device identity (vendor 0x1002 device 0x1900)
>>>>    amdgpu 0000:0b:00.0: amdgpu: Fetched VBIOS from VFCT
>>>>
>>>> The iGPU initialises fully and drives the framebuffer.
>>>>
>>>> One minor nit: the dev_notice format string ends with \\n (two 
>>>> characters) rather
>>>> than \n. The resulting kernel message has a literal "\n" at the 
>>>> end. Same issue
>>>> exists in the nearby "too short #2" dev_info -- not introduced by 
>>>> your patch, but
>>>> might be worth cleaning up.
>>>>
>>>> Tested-by: Oz Tiram <oz@shift-computing.de>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for confirming.  Before I split up this patch and post it in 
>>> smaller logical pieces can you confirm my proposed root cause is 
>>> right that this issue happens because "pci=realloc,assign-busses" 
>>> was on your kernel command line?
>>>
>>> If you drop that - does this notice still come up?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>> On 7/6/26 02:56, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/5/26 14:10, Oz Tiram wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Mario,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    To make sure I understand correctly: are you suggesting that 
>>>>>> the bus
>>>>>>    number in the VFCT was legitimate at BIOS POST time, and that
>>>>>>    pci=realloc,assign-busses is what changes it at runtime, 
>>>>>> causing the
>>>>>>    mismatch?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what it sounds like right now.  You can easily drop all the 
>>>>> superfluous kernel command line optiosn and see.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I'm not familiar enough with the PCI subsystem to know the 
>>>>>> right way to
>>>>>>    implement that — could you point me in the right direction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well there's a variety of ways to do it.  But how about we start 
>>>>> here - if we make that specific busnr match optional and instead 
>>>>> make a VID/DID match.
>>>>>
>>>>> See if the attached patch helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Oz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/5/26 20:37, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/5/26 05:04, Oz Tiram wrote:
>>>>>>>> APUs (e.g. AMD Radeon 780M / HawkPoint, PCI 1002:1900) have no
>>>>>>>> dedicated VBIOS ROM chip.  amdgpu_get_bios_apu() attempts four 
>>>>>>>> paths
>>>>>>>> before giving up:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    1. ACPI VFCT table
>>>>>>>>    2. VRAM BAR read
>>>>>>>>    3. ROM BAR read
>>>>>>>>    4. platform BIOS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On some systems all four fail.  The specific case motivating 
>>>>>>>> this patch
>>>>>>>> is a hybrid graphics machine (dGPU + APU) where:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - The VFCT table contains the iGPU entry but with a stale 
>>>>>>>> PCIBus value
>>>>>>>>      from BIOS POST time (0x6A).  When the kernel boots with
>>>>>>>>      pci=realloc,assign-busses, PCI bus numbers are reassigned 
>>>>>>>> dynamically
>>>>>>>>      and the iGPU lands on bus 0x0B at runtime. 
>>>>>>>> amdgpu_acpi_vfct_bios()
>>>>>>>>      matches entries by bus number, so the entry is never found.
>>>>>>>>    - The VRAM BAR is unmapped at probe time.
>>>>>>>>    - The ROM BAR is zero (PCI firmware did not assign it).
>>>>>>>>    - No platform BIOS mapping exists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The UEFI GOP driver initialises the iGPU successfully for early 
>>>>>>>> display,
>>>>>>>> confirming the hardware is functional.  The VBIOS image data 
>>>>>>>> embedded in
>>>>>>>> the VFCT is also valid; only the PCIBus metadata is wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the BIOS on this machine is actually totally fine; it's just 
>>>>>>> when the kernel is booted to reassign busses there is a problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case; why not detect the kernel was booted this way and 
>>>>>>> keep track of the original bus number when reassigned to avoid 
>>>>>>> the issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The firmware
>>>>>>>> file can be extracted directly from the VFCT using dd:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    dd if=/sys/firmware/acpi/tables/VFCT bs=1 skip=$((0x68)) 
>>>>>>>> count=16896 \
>>>>>>>>       of=/lib/firmware/amdgpu/1002_1900.bin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (0x68 is the byte offset of the VBIOS image after the ACPI 
>>>>>>>> table header
>>>>>>>> and VFCT_IMAGE_HEADER; the image length 16896 comes from the 
>>>>>>>> ImageLength
>>>>>>>> field in VFCT_IMAGE_HEADER.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The driver then prints "Unable to locate a BIOS ROM" and 
>>>>>>>> refuses to
>>>>>>>> bind, leaving the APU completely unusable under Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Add a fifth fallback: request a firmware file named
>>>>>>>> "amdgpu/<vendor>_<device>.bin" (e.g. "amdgpu/1002_1900.bin") via
>>>>>>>> request_firmware().  This allows a VBIOS image extracted as 
>>>>>>>> above to be
>>>>>>>> placed in /lib/firmware/ and makes the binding succeed without 
>>>>>>>> patching
>>>>>>>> ACPI tables or BIOS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The fallback is only reached if all existing paths have already 
>>>>>>>> failed,
>>>>>>>> so there is no regression risk for boards where VFCT or ROM BAR 
>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What happens if the VBIOS changes in another way one boot to 
>>>>>>> another? You might have some other stateful information that 
>>>>>>> isn't updated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The whole thing to me feels like a hack for a behavior we can 
>>>>>>> control in the kernel when doing reassignments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Oz Tiram <oz@shift-computing.de>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> v2: Fix commit message: clarify that VFCT contains the iGPU 
>>>>>>>> entry but
>>>>>>>>      with a stale PCIBus from BIOS POST that mismatches the 
>>>>>>>> runtime bus
>>>>>>>>      number assigned by pci=realloc,assign-busses. Explain that 
>>>>>>>> the VBIOS
>>>>>>>>      image data is valid and document the dd extraction command 
>>>>>>>> and byte
>>>>>>>>      offsets.  Note that the UEFI GOP driver initialises the iGPU
>>>>>>>>      successfully, confirming the hardware is functional.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_bios.c | 23 
>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++ ++ ++++
>>>>>>>>   1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_bios.c 
>>>>>>>> b/drivers/ gpu/ drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_bios.c
>>>>>>>> index aa039e148a5e..86064c753b09 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_bios.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_bios.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
>>>>>>>>    *          Jerome Glisse
>>>>>>>>    */
>>>>>>>>   +#include <linux/firmware.h>
>>>>>>>>   #include "amdgpu.h"
>>>>>>>>   #include "atom.h"
>>>>>>>>   @@ -457,6 +458,28 @@ static bool amdgpu_get_bios_apu(struct 
>>>>>>>> amdgpu_device *adev)
>>>>>>>>           goto success;
>>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>>   +    {
>>>>>>>> +        const struct firmware *fw;
>>>>>>>> +        char fw_name[32];
>>>>>>>> +        size_t fw_size;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +        snprintf(fw_name, sizeof(fw_name), 
>>>>>>>> "amdgpu/%04x_%04x.bin",
>>>>>>>> +             adev->pdev->vendor, adev->pdev->device);
>>>>>>>> +        if (request_firmware(&fw, fw_name, adev->dev) == 0) {
>>>>>>>> +            adev->bios = kmemdup(fw->data, fw->size, GFP_KERNEL);
>>>>>>>> +            fw_size = fw->size;
>>>>>>>> +            release_firmware(fw);
>>>>>>>> +            if (!adev->bios || !check_atom_bios(adev, fw_size)) {
>>>>>>>> +                amdgpu_bios_release(adev);
>>>>>>>> +            } else {
>>>>>>>> +                adev->bios_size = fw_size;
>>>>>>>> +                dev_info(adev->dev, "Fetched VBIOS from 
>>>>>>>> firmware file %s\n",
>>>>>>>> +                     fw_name);
>>>>>>>> +                goto success;
>>>>>>>> +            }
>>>>>>>> +        }
>>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>       dev_err(adev->dev, "Unable to locate a BIOS ROM\n");
>>>>>>>>       return false;
>>>>>>>
>>>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-08 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-21 17:32 [PATCH] drm/amd/amdgpu: add firmware file fallback for APU VBIOS discovery Oz Tiram
2026-06-21 18:01 ` Oz Tiram
2026-06-26 17:42   ` Mario Limonciello
2026-06-26 19:38     ` Alex Deucher
2026-07-05 10:04     ` [PATCH v2] " Oz Tiram
2026-07-05 18:37       ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-05 19:10         ` Oz Tiram
2026-07-06  0:56           ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-08 12:36             ` Oz Tiram
2026-07-08 12:55               ` Mario Limonciello
     [not found]                 ` <cc849fb3-224e-43c0-bc50-67fd025009e7@shift-computing.de>
2026-07-08 13:13                   ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-08 16:35                     ` Oz Tiram [this message]
2026-07-08 16:39                       ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-08 17:53                         ` Oz Tiram
     [not found]                         ` <d224d046-0480-4e38-9e93-29a0d37f3331@shift-computing.de>
2026-07-08 17:59                           ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-08 18:02                             ` Alex Deucher
2026-07-08 18:03                               ` Mario Limonciello
2026-07-08 18:12                                 ` Alex Deucher
2026-07-05 10:15     ` [PATCH] " Oz Tiram

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