From: "Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>
To: "John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
"Eliot Courtney" <ecourtney@nvidia.com>,
"Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
<sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
Cc: <sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
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<nova-gpu@lists.linux.dev>, <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: use consume_element to implement drain
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:23:08 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMA702E74W05.2L7ZRW1M6H3NM@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cedd65e-514e-493a-a8dc-cba683c84fea@nvidia.com>
On Wed Oct 21, 2026 at 12:12 PM JST, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 10/20/26 7:57 PM, Eliot Courtney wrote:
>> On Tue Oct 20, 2026 at 11:27 PM JST, Alexandre Courbot wrote:
>>> On Tue Oct 20, 2026 at 7:18 PM JST, sashiko-bot wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> In rust/kernel/io/poll.rs:read_poll_timeout(), when the condition is
>>>> false, the timeout check uses a strict greater-than comparison:
>>>>
>>>> if start.elapsed() > timeout_delta {
>>>> // Unlike the C version, we immediately return.
>>>> // We have just called `op()` so we don't need to call it again.
>>>> return Err(ETIMEDOUT);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> if !sleep_delta.is_zero() {
>>>> fsleep(sleep_delta);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Because op() only reads two u32 indices from coherent memory in RAM, if
>>>> the monotonic clock has not advanced by at least 1 ns between
>>>> Instant::now() and start.elapsed() (for instance on architectures with
>>>> coarser timer resolution or under virtualization), start.elapsed() is
>>>> Delta::ZERO. Since Delta::ZERO > Delta::ZERO is false,
>>>> read_poll_timeout() falls through to fsleep(Delta::from_millis(1)) while
>>>> holding the Cmdq mutex (in paths like GspInterrupt::handle_threaded() ->
>>>> Cmdq::drain() and Gpu::new() -> Cmdq::drain()).
>>>>
>>>> Would it make sense to keep the while
>>>> !self.gsp_mem.driver_read_area().0.is_empty() loop condition around
>>>> self.consume_element(Delta::ZERO, |message| message.log(self.dev))?
>>>
>>> Mmm, that's an interesting one, in that I am not sure there are any
>>> concrete implications but I'd like to fix it anyway.
>>>
>>> I was thinking that maybe we should add a special-case to
>>> `read_poll_timeout` so it returns unconditionally after checking the
>>> condition once if `timeout_delta == Delta::ZERO`, but doing so would
>>> make the `sleep_delta` argument moot so I guess that's not adequate (and
>>> the current behavior is technically correct). So I think I'll
>>> special-case nova-core's `wait_for_msg` instead.
>>
>> Personally I don't mind the special case in `read_poll_timeout`.
>> If you say, I want the timeout to be zero and then it sleeps, that
>> sounds like wonky behaviour to me. I think it feels weird to have
>
> Yes, it's odd behavior by the function, but on the other hand,
> it pairs perfectly with the odd behavior of the caller. :)
>
> Let's avoid special casing. Just let the zero flow naturally
> through the function and leave it alone. Special casing should
> only be added in special cases!
>
>
>> this special case w.r.t. `sleep_delta` only because we are using
>> constant values and that's a common use case. TBH I think it would
>> even be fine to change `start.elapsed() > timeout_delta` to
>> `start.elapsed() >= timeout_delta`, then it's not even really a
>> special case. I could try sending a patch for this.
>>
>> I'm also fine with special casing `wait_for_msg`, but personally
>> (maybe) sleeping when you set timeout to Delta::ZERO sounds busted to
>> me.
>
> It's not necessarily wrong, depending on how you think about it:
> "sleep, but timeout at zero" is something I've seen used (I forget
> where) as to mean "context switch away", kind of like a cpu_relax().
Here, it only sometimes sleeps ("(maybe)"), depending on the resolution
of the timer and how long stuff takes. So it's really pretty
inconsistent IMO.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-21 3:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-20 10:08 [PATCH v5 00/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: prepare the command queue for r000 dual-message types Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: remove stale comment Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 11:43 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: simplify framing error description Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 11:43 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: validate checksum earlier on receive Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: introduce and use proper RpcMessageHeader type Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: group the RPC-specific part of send_single_command Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split the transport part of the send path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split RPC parsing part of the receive path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: move RPC message logging to RpcMessage Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: split the transport part of the receive path Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21 1:56 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: extract await_msg_with from await_msg Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21 2:00 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: use consume_element to implement drain Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:18 ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-20 14:27 ` Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-21 2:57 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-21 3:12 ` John Hubbard
2026-10-21 3:23 ` Eliot Courtney [this message]
2026-10-21 4:05 ` John Hubbard
2026-10-21 2:58 ` Eliot Courtney
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: cmdq: move the RPC code into a sub-module Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:15 ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: move the RPC commands " Alexandre Courbot
2026-10-20 10:08 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: add `rpc` to RPC message send/receive methods Alexandre Courbot
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