question about translations

question about translations

[Ruediger Meier]

Hi,

I have no much knowledge about the whole translations thing but the new 
setarch message "Execute command" looks odd to me.

$ git grep -A1 "Execute command" -- po/
po/ca.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
po/ca.po-msgstr "S'està executant l'ordre date: %s\n"
--
po/cs.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
po/cs.po-msgstr "Spouští se příkaz „date„: %s\n"
--
po/da.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
po/da.po-msgstr "Udfører kommandoen date: %s\n"
--
po/de.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
po/de.po-msgstr "Der „date“-Befehl wird aufgerufen: %s\n"
--
[...]

Why they always say that "date" is executed?


cu,
Rudi

Re: question about translations

[Yuri Chornoivan]

6 квітня 2016, 14:06:39, від "Ruediger Meier" <sweet_f_a@gmx.de>:
 
>   Hi,
> 
> I have no much knowledge about the whole translations thing but the new 
> setarch message "Execute command" looks odd to me.
> 
> $ git grep -A1 "Execute command" -- po/
> po/ca.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/ca.po-msgstr "S'està executant l'ordre date: %s\n"
> --
> po/cs.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/cs.po-msgstr "Spouští se příkaz „date„: %s\n"
> --
> po/da.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/da.po-msgstr "Udfører kommandoen date: %s\n"
> --
> po/de.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/de.po-msgstr "Der „date“-Befehl wird aufgerufen: %s\n"
> --
> [...]
> 
> Why they always say that "date" is executed?
> 
> 
> cu,
> Rudi

Hi,

These can be just fuzzy substitutions.

Example (Catalan, ca):

#: sys-utils/setarch.c:395
#, fuzzy, c-format
#| msgid "Issuing date command: %s\n"
msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
msgstr "S'està executant l'ordre date: %s\n"

Czech current from TP has correct translation:

#: sys-utils/setarch.c:395
#, c-format
msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
msgstr "Spouští se příkaz „%s“.\n"

So, I guess, there is nothing to worry now.

Best regards,
Yuri
Ukrainian translator
 
 

Re: question about translations

[Karel Zak]

On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 11:59:21AM +0100, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have no much knowledge about the whole translations thing but the new 
> setarch message "Execute command" looks odd to me.
> 
> $ git grep -A1 "Execute command" -- po/
> po/ca.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/ca.po-msgstr "S'està executant l'ordre date: %s\n"
> --
> po/cs.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/cs.po-msgstr "Spouští se příkaz „date„: %s\n"
> --
> po/da.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/da.po-msgstr "Udfører kommandoen date: %s\n"
> --
> po/de.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> po/de.po-msgstr "Der „date“-Befehl wird aufgerufen: %s\n"

I guess you miss "#, fuzzy, c-format" note before the translation.

It's a translation generated by build-system and should be fixed by
human. See for example (not yet merged)

    http://translationproject.org/latest/util-linux/de.po

where is it already fixed.

    Karel

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 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

Re: question about translations

[Ruediger Meier]

On Wednesday 06 April 2016, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 11:59:21AM +0100, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have no much knowledge about the whole translations thing but the
> > new setarch message "Execute command" looks odd to me.
> >
> > $ git grep -A1 "Execute command" -- po/
> > po/ca.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> > po/ca.po-msgstr "S'est executant l'ordre date: %s\n"
> > --
> > po/cs.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> > po/cs.po-msgstr "Spout se pkaz date: %s\n"
> > --
> > po/da.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> > po/da.po-msgstr "Udfrer kommandoen date: %s\n"
> > --
> > po/de.po:msgid "Execute command `%s'.\n"
> > po/de.po-msgstr "Der date-Befehl wird aufgerufen: %s\n"
>
> I guess you miss "#, fuzzy, c-format" note before the translation.

Well, I was wondering if this fuzzy (non-sense) message would be really 
shown if translators do not fix it before release. (Because I've felt 
guilty to add a new message in 9508e297 (after rc1!).

Also I wonder what is the right way to test the translations without 
installing util-linux. I've managed it like this, but looks bit 
complicated:

$ ./configure --disable-use-tty-group --prefix=/tmp/dest --with-systemdsystemunitdir=/tmp/dest/whatever
$ make install
$ export LC_ALL=es_ES.UTF-8 
$ ./setarch blub
setarch: blub: Arquitectura no reconocida

BTW I think we are missing make dependencies. Editing a .po files and 
running make install again does not work.

Hmm ... I thought I would never spent one second of my life with these 
damn locales. Now I did it. Never say never. :)

> It's a translation generated by build-system and should be fixed by
> human. See for example (not yet merged)
>
>     http://translationproject.org/latest/util-linux/de.po
>
> where is it already fixed.

Again, regarding make deps. make distdir seems to pull these updates. 
But make install seems to install the ones we have in git.

cu,
Rudi

Re: question about translations

[Benno Schulenberg]

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, at 22:30, Ruediger Meier wrote:
> Well, I was wondering if this fuzzy (non-sense) message would be really 
> shown if translators do not fix it before release.

No, to gettext "fuzzy" means "invalid", "don't use".  The PO files
are 'compiled' by msgfmt into .MO files which are used at runtime,
and msgfmt ignores any messages that are marked fuzzy.

> (Because I've felt 
> guilty to add a new message in 9508e297 (after rc1!).

Adding or changing messages will never cause any /wrong/
translations to be shown, so there is no problem.

Benno

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