error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Jeremiah]

Hello all,

I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it. 

When I run
"kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
I get back
"kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"

I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure and 
AX0 port. 
Any ideas, Do I need to patch?

I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.

Any input would be of help.

Thanks

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the 
latest kernel from kernel.org.  You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org)
3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16 from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


> Hello all,
>
> I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
> I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.
>
> When I run
> "kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
> I get back
> "kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
> Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
> or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"
>
> I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure 
> and
> AX0 port.
> Any ideas, Do I need to patch?
>
> I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.
>
> Any input would be of help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeremiah
> KD7DMP
> -
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RE: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
Point a YaST install source to
ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/
and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Mike, W1NR


-----Original Message-----
From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, W1NR
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
To: Jeremiah; linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the
latest kernel from kernel.org.  You have 3 choices.

1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16
from kernel.org sources.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


> Hello all,
>
> I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
> I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.
>
> When I run
> "kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
> I get back
> "kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
> Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
> or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"
>
> I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure 
> and
> AX0 port.
> Any ideas, Do I need to patch?
>
> I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.
>
> Any input would be of help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeremiah
> KD7DMP
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Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Douglas Cole]

On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <lists@w1nr.net> wrote:
> There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
> Point a YaST install source to
> ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/
> and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one
just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make
the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an
entry in Grub?

I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for
the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into
my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the
ignorance...

Thanks for the link :)

Doug
N7BFS

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

My mistake.  There are no YaST control files present in that directory.  You 
need to download the RPM's and install manually.  If you are using Grub, 
everything should get taken care of.  However, there will be no automatic 
updating via YOU.  Other things like wireless and third party video might 
have problems with this approach also.

The problem is a broken mkiss kernel module.  I tried to update this from 
source a while back and got nowhere.  There are too many other dependencies. 
A lot of work was done on the AX.25 kernel modules recently and will be 
present when SuSE 10.1 gets released (with 2.6.16 kernel).  Currently RC1 is 
available and the official release of 10.1 is scheduled for April 25.  That 
would be the best solution and one I am waiting for.

My cluster server is still running 9.3 because of the mkiss issue.  I will 
be putting 10.1 RC1 on a test machine this weekend to try things out.  Beta 
9 looked good as far as AX.25 was concerned.  About a month after the 10.1 
release, I might upgrade my main server.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <lists@w1nr.net> wrote:
> There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
> Point a YaST install source to
> ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/
> and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"

Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one
just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make
the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an
entry in Grub?

I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for
the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into
my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the
ignorance...

Thanks for the link :)

Doug
N7BFS

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Jeremiah]

well, I guess I could always give 2.6.16 a try on a vmware type install and 
see what happens. Or maybe this is a good reason for me to try to get Xen 
work. ^_^

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

On Wednesday 19 April 2006 05:18, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:
> My mistake.  There are no YaST control files present in that directory. 
> You need to download the RPM's and install manually.  If you are using
> Grub, everything should get taken care of.  However, there will be no
> automatic updating via YOU.  Other things like wireless and third party
> video might have problems with this approach also.
>
> The problem is a broken mkiss kernel module.  I tried to update this from
> source a while back and got nowhere.  There are too many other
> dependencies. A lot of work was done on the AX.25 kernel modules recently
> and will be present when SuSE 10.1 gets released (with 2.6.16 kernel). 
> Currently RC1 is available and the official release of 10.1 is scheduled
> for April 25.  That would be the best solution and one I am waiting for.
>
> My cluster server is still running 9.3 because of the mkiss issue.  I will
> be putting 10.1 RC1 on a test machine this weekend to try things out.  Beta
> 9 looked good as far as AX.25 was concerned.  About a month after the 10.1
> release, I might upgrade my main server.
>
> Mike, W1NR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
> To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
> Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>
> On 4/18/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <lists@w1nr.net> wrote:
> > There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
> > Point a YaST install source to
> > ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEA
> >D/ and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"
>
> Will this be an "easy" kernel upgrade or will it break a system if one
> just installs the rpm and that is it? Or will YaST "magically" make
> the initrd file and put the new kernel where it should be and make an
> entry in Grub?
>
> I am still very green to kernel upgrading (normally I will wait for
> the next distro' version) and so don't have all the steps burned into
> my cortex like most of the folks on this list, so please pardon the
> ignorance...
>
> Thanks for the link :)
>
> Doug
> N7BFS

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Jeremiah]

I didn't know about that one, cool. Now is that bleeding edge kernels, or do 
they have stable builds on there too??

Do you know what kernel ax25 is working on??

thanks
Jeremiah
KD7DMP

On Tuesday 18 April 2006 16:33, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:
> There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
> Point a YaST install source to
> ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/
> and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"
>
> Mike, W1NR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, W1NR
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
> To: Jeremiah; linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>
> It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the
> latest kernel from kernel.org.  You have 3 choices.
>
> 1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
> 2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 2.6.16
> from kernel.org sources.
>
> Mike, W1NR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
> To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
> Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
> > I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.
> >
> > When I run
> > "kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
> > I get back
> > "kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
> > Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
> > or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"
> >
> > I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure
> > and
> > AX0 port.
> > Any ideas, Do I need to patch?
> >
> > I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.
> >
> > Any input would be of help.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jeremiah
> > KD7DMP
> > -
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Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

Kernel versions that I know about:

2.6.14 is broken.
2.6.15.2 Was patched.
2.6.16.x is good (from RC1).

Note these are the official release numbers from kernel.org.  They are not 
the same sub version numbers that SuSE uses.  Assuming SuSE picked up the 
standard 2.6.16 sources, the 10.1 release should be just fine.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
Cc: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


>I didn't know about that one, cool. Now is that bleeding edge kernels, or 
>do
> they have stable builds on there too??
>
> Do you know what kernel ax25 is working on??
>
> thanks
> Jeremiah
> KD7DMP
>
> On Tuesday 18 April 2006 16:33, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:
>> There is one other possible cure I forgot to mention...
>> Point a YaST install source to
>> ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/projects/kernel/kotd/i386/HEAD/
>> and try the "kotd - kernel of the day"
>>
>> Mike, W1NR
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org
>> [mailto:linux-hams-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy, 
>> W1NR
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:52 AM
>> To: Jeremiah; linux-hams@vger.kernel.org
>> Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse 
>> Kernel
>>
>> It is broken and I don't know of a reliable patch other than getting the
>> latest kernel from kernel.org.  You have 3 choices.
>>
>> 1. Back off to SuSE 9.3.
>> 2. Try SuSE 10.1 RC1 (See www.opensuse.org) 3. Update the kernel to 
>> 2.6.16
>> from kernel.org sources.
>>
>> Mike, W1NR
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
>> To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM
>> Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
>> > I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.
>> >
>> > When I run
>> > "kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
>> > I get back
>> > "kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
>> > Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
>> > or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"
>> >
>> > I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure
>> > and
>> > AX0 port.
>> > Any ideas, Do I need to patch?
>> >
>> > I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.
>> >
>> > Any input would be of help.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Jeremiah
>> > KD7DMP
>> > -
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>> > in
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Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Douglas Cole]

On 4/19/06, Mike McCarthy, W1NR <lists@w1nr.net> wrote:
> Kernel versions that I know about:
>
> 2.6.14 is broken.
> 2.6.15.2 Was patched.
> 2.6.16.x is good (from RC1).
>
> Note these are the official release numbers from kernel.org.  They are not
> the same sub version numbers that SuSE uses.  Assuming SuSE picked up the
> standard 2.6.16 sources, the 10.1 release should be just fine.
>
> Mike, W1NR

After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it
uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair
chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

Yes.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it
uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair
chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?

tnx for any input/help

Doug
N7BFS

Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Mike McCarthy, W1NR]

There is another gotcha...

SuSE 10.1 RC1 does not include libax25 any longer.  However, the kernel is 
still built with the mkiss and ax25 modules so no kernel recompile is 
needed.  This causes the current 10.0 packages to fail dependencies when you 
try and install them through YaST.

There is hope.  I am attempting to build a libax25 rpm file.  I am also 
looking at creating an "add-on" for all of the packages using the new 10.1 
features of YaST.

More later.

Mike, W1NR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
To: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel


> Yes.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
> To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
> Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse 
> Kernel
>
>
> After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it
> uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair
> chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?
>
> tnx for any input/help
>
> Doug
> N7BFS
>
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Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Jeremiah]

Hello all:

Well I'm a happy guy today, I got 2.6.16 installed from the RPM on my Suse 
10.0 box, and so far it seems to run happy. I had to do the install a few 
times, but after doing a "rpm -iv --nodeps ..." to keep it from complaning 
that it didn't have the right version of perl-bootloader it seems to work. 

So I can have my packet base station back, YEAH!!!!

I'll keep every one up to date on this if I find any problems with running 
this non-distro stander kernel.

Thanks all for that help ^_^

Jeremiah
KD7DMP

On Thursday 20 April 2006 12:15, Mike McCarthy, W1NR wrote:
> There is another gotcha...
>
> SuSE 10.1 RC1 does not include libax25 any longer.  However, the kernel is
> still built with the mkiss and ax25 modules so no kernel recompile is
> needed.  This causes the current 10.0 packages to fail dependencies when
> you try and install them through YaST.
>
> There is hope.  I am attempting to build a libax25 rpm file.  I am also
> looking at creating an "add-on" for all of the packages using the new 10.1
> features of YaST.
>
> More later.
>
> Mike, W1NR
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
> To: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>
> > Yes.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Douglas Cole" <doug.n7bfs@gmail.com>
> > To: "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <lists@w1nr.net>
> > Cc: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>; <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse
> > Kernel
> >
> >
> > After downloading the ISO images of 10.1rc1 and searching disc one, it
> > uses 2.6.16.20 as the "default" kernel, so would that have a fair
> > chance of working with ax25 and mkiss ?
> >
> > tnx for any input/help
> >
> > Doug
> > N7BFS
> >
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Re: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel

[Jeremiah]

On Monday 17 April 2006 20:47, you wrote:
> Did you check to see if MKISS is loaded, assuming you made it a module?
> lsmod        should list the loaded modules.
>
>        Tom     WB8ZRL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremiah" <jjgpg@cet.com>
> To: <linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:21 AM
> Subject: error when trying to run kissattach on 2.6.13-15.8 Suse Kernel
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I get an error when trying to start up kissattach on my Suse 10 box.
> > I'm running the Suse 2.6.13-15.8 kernel, no changes made to it.
> >
> > When I run
> > "kissattach /dev/ttyS0 vhf 10.0.0.1"
> > I get back
> > "kissattach: Error setting line discipline: TIOCSETD: No such device
> > Are you sure you have enabled MKISS support in the kernel
> > or, if you made it a module, that the module is loaded?"
> >
> > I get no other error other than suse complaning that I didn't configure
>
> and
>
> > AX0 port.
> > Any ideas, Do I need to patch?
> >
> > I do have the AX.25 stuff downloaded from suse linux ham YAST source.
> >
> > Any input would be of help.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jeremiah
> > KD7DMP
> > -
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Yep, I made sure that Mkiss and ax25 are getting loaded, and they are. I 
should have knowen better then to leave that out of my posting, lol

Jeremiah
KD7DMP