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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 11:16:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1337303787.2530.4.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB57712.7030806@codemonkey.ws>

On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 17:09 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:

> ld/st should not ever be used by device emulation because they use a concept of 
> "target endianness" that doesn't exist for devices.

Hrm, there's a bit of both, some of them even have explicit endianness
arguments and some of them are definitely used by bits of hw/*

virtio core uses them directly as well but then virtio also does
explicit barriers (though I need to double check whether it does enough
of them in all the right places).

> So no, I don't think you need to put barriers there as they should only be used 
> by VCPU emulation code.

I'm ok to leave them alone for now, I'll give a quick look at the
various callers.

> > Note that with the above, cpu_physical_memory_map and unmap will
> > imply a barrier when using bounce buffers, it would make sense to also
> > provide the same barrier when not.
> >
> > That does actually make sense for the same reason explained above,
> > ie, when those are used for a DMA transfer via async IO, that guarantees
> > ordering of the "block" vs. surrounding accesses even if accesses within
> > the actual map/unmap region are not ordered vs. each other.
> >
> > Any objection ?
> 
> I think so.  I'd like to see a better comment about barrier usage at the top of 
> the file or something like that too.

Ok.

Cheers,
Ben.

> Regards,
> 
> Anthony Liguori
> 
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ben.
> >
> >
> >

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-18  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:23     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:42     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  2:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  2:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  3:02             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  0:41                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  0:54                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  1:20                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:11     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  1:44     ` David Gibson
2012-05-16  4:35       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  5:51         ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:07           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:24             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:52               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  2:28                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17  2:44                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18  1:04                       ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  1:16                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-05-17  3:35                   ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  6:53               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18  8:18                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18  8:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19  7:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:56                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  8:11                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21  8:31                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  8:58                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:07                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:16                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:34                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  9:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  5:11                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22  0:00                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:19                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:34                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:51                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  7:17                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15  0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori

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