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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:03:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB1B95A.20209@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515014204.GE30229@truffala.fritz.box>

On 05/14/2012 08:42 PM, David Gibson wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 07:49:16PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> [snip]
>>> +void iommu_wait_for_invalidated_maps(DMAContext *dma,
>>> +                                     dma_addr_t addr, dma_addr_t len)
>>> +{
>>> +    DMAMemoryMap *map;
>>> +    DMAInvalidationState is;
>>> +
>>> +    is.count = 0;
>>> +    qemu_cond_init(&is.cond);
>>> +
>>> +    QLIST_FOREACH(map,&dma->memory_maps, list) {
>>> +        if (ranges_overlap(addr, len, map->addr, map->len)) {
>>> +            is.count++;
>>> +            map->invalidate =&is;
>>> +        }
>>> +    }
>>> +
>>> +    if (is.count) {
>>> +        qemu_cond_wait(&is.cond,&qemu_global_mutex);
>>> +    }
>>> +    assert(is.count == 0);
>>> +}
>>
>> I don't get what's going on here but I don't think it can possibly
>> be right. What is the purpose of this function?
>
> So.  This is a function to be used by individual iommu
> implementations.  When IOMMU mappings are updated on real hardware,
> there may be some lag in th effect, particularly for in-flight DMAs,
> due to shadow TLBs or other things.  But generally, there will be some
> way to synchronize the IOMMU that once completed will ensure that no
> further DMA access to the old translations may occur.  For the sPAPR
> TCE MMU, this actually happens after every PUT_TCE hcall.
>
> In our software implementation this is a problem if existing drivers
> have done a dma_memory_map() and haven't yet done a
> dma_memory_unmap(): they will have a real pointer to the translated
> memory which can't be intercepted.  However, memory maps are supposed
> to be transient, so this helper function invalidates memory maps based
> on an IOVA address range, and blocks until they expire.  This function
> would be called from CPU thread context, the dma_memory_unmap() would
> come from the IO thread (in the only existing case from AIO completion
> callbacks in the block IO code).
>
> This gives the IOMMU implementation a way of blocking the CPU
> initiating a sync operation until it really is safe to assume that no
> further DMA operations may hit the invalidated mappings.  Note that if
> we actually hit the blocking path here, that almost certainly
> indicates the guest has done something wrong, or at least unusual -

So the CPU thread runs in lock-step with the I/O thread.  Dropping the CPU 
thread lock to let the I/O thread run is a dangerous thing to do in a place like 
this.

Also, I think you'd effectively block the CPU until pending DMA operations 
complete?  This could be many, many, milliseconds, no?  That's going to make 
guests very upset.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> DMA devices should be stopped before removing their IOMMU mappings
> from under them.  However, one of the points of the IOMMU is the
> ability to be able to forcibly stop DMAs, so we do need to implement
> this behaviour for that case.
>
> With difficulty, I've traced through qemu's difficult-to-follow thread
> synchronization logic and I'm about 75% convinced this works correctly
> with it.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-15  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:23     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:42     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2012-05-15  2:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  2:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  3:02             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  0:41                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  0:54                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  1:20                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:11     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  1:44     ` David Gibson
2012-05-16  4:35       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  5:51         ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:07           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:24             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:52               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  2:28                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17  2:44                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18  1:04                       ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  1:16                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  3:35                   ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  6:53               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18  8:18                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18  8:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19  7:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:56                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  8:11                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21  8:31                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  8:58                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:07                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:16                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:34                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  9:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  5:11                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22  0:00                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:19                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:34                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:51                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  7:17                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15  0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-19  6:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] iommu series Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-06-19  6:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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