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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 12:34:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120521093440.GK4674@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337591787.2779.48.camel@pasglop>

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 07:16:27PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 19:07 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > One thing that might alleviate some of your concerns would possibly be
> > to "remember" in a global (to be replaced with a thread var eventually)
> > the last transfer direction and use a simple test to chose the barrier,
> > ie, store + store -> wmb, load + load -> rmb, other -> mb.

But how do you know guest did a store?

> > 
> > But first I'd be curious if some x86 folks could actually measure the
> > impact of the patch as I proposed it. That would give us an idea of how
> > bad the performance problem is and how far we need to go to address it.
> 
> Another option.... go back to something more like the original patch,
> ie, put the barrier in the new dma_* accessors (and provide a
> non-barrier one while at it) rather than the low level cpu_physical_*
> accessor.
> 
> That makes it a lot easier for selected driver to be converted to avoid
> the barrier in thing like code running in the vcpu context. It also
> means that virtio doesn't get any added barriers which is what we want
> as well.
> 
> IE. Have something along the lines (based on the accessors added by the
> iommu series) (using __ kernel-style, feel free to provide a better
> naming)
> 
> static inline int __dma_memory_rw( ... args ... )
> {
>     if (!dma_has_iommu(dma)) {
>         /* Fast-path for no IOMMU */
>         cpu_physical_memory_rw( ... args ...);
>         return 0;
>     } else {
>         return iommu_dma_memory_rw( ... args ...);
>     }
> }
> 
> static inline int dma_memory_rw( ... args ... )
> {
> 	smp_mb(); /* Or use finer grained as discussied earlier */
> 
> 	return __dma_memory_rw( ... args ... )

Heh. But don't we need an mb afterwards too?

> }
> 
> And corresponding __dma_memory_read/__dma_memory_write (again, feel
> free to suggest a more "qemu'ish" naming if you don't like __, it's
> a kernel habit, not sure what you guys do in qemu land).
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.

And my preference is to first convert everyone to __ variants and
carefully switch devices to the barrier version after a bit of
consideration.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-21  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10  4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:42   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:23     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:51   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:42     ` David Gibson
2012-05-15  2:03       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  2:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  2:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  3:02             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  0:41                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  0:54                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16  1:20                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10  4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  0:52   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15  1:11     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15  1:44     ` David Gibson
2012-05-16  4:35       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16  5:51         ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:07           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:24             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  0:52               ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  2:28                 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17  2:44                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18  1:04                       ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  1:16                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17  3:35                   ` David Gibson
2012-05-18  6:53               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18  8:18                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18  8:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19  7:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-20 21:36                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  1:56                           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  8:11                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21  8:31                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21  8:58                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:07                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:16                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21  9:34                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-05-21  9:53                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  5:11                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22  0:00                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:19                                                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:34                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  4:51                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22  7:17                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15  0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori

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