From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 09:24:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB74AB0.7090608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337379992.2513.17.camel@pasglop>
Il 19/05/2012 00:26, Benjamin Herrenschmidt ha scritto:
>> In theory you would need a memory barrier before the first ld/st and one
>> after the last... considering virtio uses map/unmap, what about leaving
>> map/unmap and ld*_phys/st*_phys as the high performance unsafe API?
>> Then you can add barriers around ld*_pci_dma/st*_pci_dma.
>
> So no, my idea is to make anybody using ld_* and st_* (non _dma)
> responsible for their own barriers. The _dma are implemented in term of
> cpu_physical_memory_rw so should inherit the barriers.
Yeah, after these patches they are.
> As for map/unmap, there's an inconsistency since when it falls back to
> bounce buffering, it will get implicit barriers. My idea was to put a
> barrier before always, see blow.
The bounce buffering case is never hit in practice. Your reasoning
about adding a barrier before always makes sense, but probably it's
better to add (a) a variant of map with no barrier; (b) a variant that
takes an sglist that would add only one barrier.
I agree that a barrier in unmap is not needed.
>>> The full sync should provide all the synchronization we need
>>
>> You mean "sync; ld; sync" for load and "sync; st" for store? That would
>> do, yes.
>
> No, just sync,ld
>
> IE. If I put a barrier "before" in cpu_physical_memory_rw I ensure
> ordering vs all previous accesses.
Ok.
I guess the C11/C++ guys required an isync barrier after either loads or
stores, because they need to order the load/store vs. code accessing
other memory. This is not needed in QEMU because all guest accesses go
through cpu_physical_memory_rw (or has its own barriers).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-19 7:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-10 4:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Better support for dma_addr_t variables Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] Implement cpu_physical_memory_zero() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:23 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] iommu: Add universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] usb-ohci: Use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] iommu: Make sglists and dma_bdrv helpers use new universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] ide/ahci: Use universal DMA helper functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13 - UPDATED] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] usb: Convert usb_packet_{map, unmap} to universal DMA helpers Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] iommu: Introduce IOMMU emulation infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:42 ` David Gibson
2012-05-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 2:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 2:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 3:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 14:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 23:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 0:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 0:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] iommu: Add facility to cancel in-use dma memory maps Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] pseries: Convert sPAPR TCEs to use generic IOMMU infrastructure Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] iommu: Allow PCI to use " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] pseries: Implement IOMMU and DMA for PAPR PCI devices Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-10 4:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 0:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-15 1:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-15 1:44 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 5:51 ` David Gibson
2012-05-16 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-16 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-16 21:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC/PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 2:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-17 2:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 22:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-18 1:04 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 1:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-17 3:35 ` David Gibson
2012-05-18 6:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] iommu: Add a memory barrier to DMA RW function Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 8:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-18 8:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-18 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-19 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-05-20 21:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 1:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 8:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 8:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 8:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 9:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 11:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 12:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 15:16 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-21 21:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access function Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 22:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 0:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:19 ` Rusty Russell
2012-05-21 22:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-21 22:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-21 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to DMA functions Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 4:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 7:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 11:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 11:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-22 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-22 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-05-21 22:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add a memory barrier to guest memory access functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-05-15 0:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] IOMMU infrastructure Anthony Liguori
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