From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
"Sudip Mukherjee" <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
"Teddy Wang" <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
"Arnaud Patard" <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>,
airlied@linux.ie
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 21:43:13 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481233393.26959.53.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1481232210.26959.47.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 08:23 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > From memory, David claimed you cannot directly work on the fb with a "proper"
>
> DRM driver. Maybe I misunderstood but then the DRM shines by its complete
> absence of useful documentation
That sentence should have been in the past, it does look like
documentation has been landing in the tree this year ! yay ! I'll go
off read it.
> mixed with bazillion layers of APIs and helpers
> so it's pretty hard to get ones head around it without wasting very large amounts
> of time which I don't have at the moment.
Ben.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
"Sudip Mukherjee" <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
"Teddy Wang" <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
"Arnaud Patard" <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>,
airlied@linux.ie
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 08:43:13 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481233393.26959.53.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1481232210.26959.47.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 08:23 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > From memory, David claimed you cannot directly work on the fb with a "proper"
>
> DRM driver. Maybe I misunderstood but then the DRM shines by its complete
> absence of useful documentation
That sentence should have been in the past, it does look like
documentation has been landing in the tree this year ! yay ! I'll go
off read it.
> mixed with bazillion layers of APIs and helpers
> so it's pretty hard to get ones head around it without wasting very large amounts
> of time which I don't have at the moment.
Ben.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
"Sudip Mukherjee" <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
"Teddy Wang" <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
"Arnaud Patard" <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>,
airlied@linux.ie
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 08:43:13 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481233393.26959.53.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1481232210.26959.47.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 08:23 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > From memory, David claimed you cannot directly work on the fb with a "proper"
>
> DRM driver. Maybe I misunderstood but then the DRM shines by its complete
> absence of useful documentation
That sentence should have been in the past, it does look like
documentation has been landing in the tree this year ! yay ! I'll go
off read it.
> mixed with bazillion layers of APIs and helpers
> so it's pretty hard to get ones head around it without wasting very large amounts
> of time which I don't have at the moment.
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-08 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 8:03 [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] staging: remove xgifb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] staging: remove sm750fb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] staging: remove fbtft Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 20:12 ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23 20:12 ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23 8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 10:05 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-11-23 10:05 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13 7:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 8:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 8:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
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