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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Teddy Wang <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
	Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 09:49:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161123094944.GA17112@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <230111fb-498e-11ef-b452-157a36d7f021@ti.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:12:32AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 23/11/16 10:52, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:03:10AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since the fbdev framework is in maintenance mode and all new display drivers
> >> should be made with the DRM framework, remove the fbdev drivers from staging.
> >>
> >> Note: the patches are created with git format-patch -D, so they can't be
> >> applied. Only for review.
> > 
> > I only want to remove these drivers if we have the same functionality in
> > mainline for their hardware.  If not, that's a bit rude to those who
> > actually use them today, don't you think?
> 
> What does it mean for a driver to be in staging? I thought it's
> basically the same as the driver being out-of-tree, with the difference
> that the code is in a central git repository for easier co-operation.

Yes, but it also allows people to use their hardware, for drivers that
are not "quite ready".

> If that's what staging means, then I would reject the staging fbdev
> drivers the same way as I'd reject new fbdev drivers sent as patches to
> the list.

Rejecting valid drivers for hardware that people have today is not a
nice thing.  If you want to just move them into staging so that people
can get their hardware working while people port to the new apis, I will
be glad to take them.

> Or do you mean that we should keep the drivers in staging until there's
> a matching DRM driver, but drop any plans to move the drivers from
> staging to drivers/video/? If so, I'm fine with that. This is an RFC,
> mostly to raise some discussion and push people to actually write those
> DRM drivers =).

I do not want to move these to drivers/video/ and they should just stay
where they are until a matching DRM driver is present in the tree.

thanks,

greg k-h

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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Teddy Wang <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
	Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 10:49:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161123094944.GA17112@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <230111fb-498e-11ef-b452-157a36d7f021@ti.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:12:32AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 23/11/16 10:52, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:03:10AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since the fbdev framework is in maintenance mode and all new display drivers
> >> should be made with the DRM framework, remove the fbdev drivers from staging.
> >>
> >> Note: the patches are created with git format-patch -D, so they can't be
> >> applied. Only for review.
> > 
> > I only want to remove these drivers if we have the same functionality in
> > mainline for their hardware.  If not, that's a bit rude to those who
> > actually use them today, don't you think?
> 
> What does it mean for a driver to be in staging? I thought it's
> basically the same as the driver being out-of-tree, with the difference
> that the code is in a central git repository for easier co-operation.

Yes, but it also allows people to use their hardware, for drivers that
are not "quite ready".

> If that's what staging means, then I would reject the staging fbdev
> drivers the same way as I'd reject new fbdev drivers sent as patches to
> the list.

Rejecting valid drivers for hardware that people have today is not a
nice thing.  If you want to just move them into staging so that people
can get their hardware working while people port to the new apis, I will
be glad to take them.

> Or do you mean that we should keep the drivers in staging until there's
> a matching DRM driver, but drop any plans to move the drivers from
> staging to drivers/video/? If so, I'm fine with that. This is an RFC,
> mostly to raise some discussion and push people to actually write those
> DRM drivers =).

I do not want to move these to drivers/video/ and they should just stay
where they are until a matching DRM driver is present in the tree.

thanks,

greg k-h
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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"Sudip Mukherjee" <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
	"Teddy Wang" <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
	"Arnaud Patard" <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 10:49:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161123094944.GA17112@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <230111fb-498e-11ef-b452-157a36d7f021@ti.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:12:32AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 23/11/16 10:52, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:03:10AM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since the fbdev framework is in maintenance mode and all new display drivers
> >> should be made with the DRM framework, remove the fbdev drivers from staging.
> >>
> >> Note: the patches are created with git format-patch -D, so they can't be
> >> applied. Only for review.
> > 
> > I only want to remove these drivers if we have the same functionality in
> > mainline for their hardware.  If not, that's a bit rude to those who
> > actually use them today, don't you think?
> 
> What does it mean for a driver to be in staging? I thought it's
> basically the same as the driver being out-of-tree, with the difference
> that the code is in a central git repository for easier co-operation.

Yes, but it also allows people to use their hardware, for drivers that
are not "quite ready".

> If that's what staging means, then I would reject the staging fbdev
> drivers the same way as I'd reject new fbdev drivers sent as patches to
> the list.

Rejecting valid drivers for hardware that people have today is not a
nice thing.  If you want to just move them into staging so that people
can get their hardware working while people port to the new apis, I will
be glad to take them.

> Or do you mean that we should keep the drivers in staging until there's
> a matching DRM driver, but drop any plans to move the drivers from
> staging to drivers/video/? If so, I'm fine with that. This is an RFC,
> mostly to raise some discussion and push people to actually write those
> DRM drivers =).

I do not want to move these to drivers/video/ and they should just stay
where they are until a matching DRM driver is present in the tree.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-23  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23  8:03 [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] staging: remove xgifb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] staging: remove sm750fb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] staging: remove fbtft Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:03   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 17:26   ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26     ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26     ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-24  8:36     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24  8:36       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24  8:36       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 20:12   ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23 20:12     ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23  8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:19   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:19   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:21   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:21     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  8:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23  8:25     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23  8:25     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23  8:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:45       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:45       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23  8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23  8:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23  8:52   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23  9:12   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  9:12     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  9:12     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23  9:49     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2016-11-23  9:49       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23  9:49       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 10:05     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-11-23 10:05       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-22 20:36       ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36         ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36         ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-08 22:00     ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00       ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00       ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08  1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08  1:01   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08  8:01   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08  8:01     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08  8:01     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 21:23     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:13         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:13           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:13           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13  7:36       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13  7:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-08 10:10   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 12:15     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:02       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:22           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:37           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:37             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:44             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 15:21               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21                 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21                 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:34                     ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:34                       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:34                       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:41                       ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:41                         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:41                         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 11:48                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 13:35                           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:27                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13  7:18                               ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13  7:18                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13  7:18                                 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-09 11:44                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:44                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 12:33                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 13:19                         ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19                           ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19                           ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:33                         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33                           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33                           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:57                           ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57                             ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57                             ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 14:04                             ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04                               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04                               ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:29                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  8:30                 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:30                   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09  8:30                   ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:59           ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59             ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59             ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:22         ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22           ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:28     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09  0:08       ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09  0:08         ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09  0:08         ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09  8:04         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09  8:04           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 11:40         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13  7:33         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13  7:33           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13  7:33           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 15:17     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17       ` Laurent Pinchart

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