From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Teddy Wang <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 11:44:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481283856.27965.11.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161209083442.peoriqsto2llvl2t@phenom.ffwll.local>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 09:34 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Yeah if you have discrete vram then your dumb display driver isn't all
> that pretty. We essentially just have the few drivers Dave hacked up to be
> able to boot some servers. And there's definitely lots of room for more
> shared code for those, and also some better infrastructure and helpers to
> share more cod and make them better.
>
> The massive pile of dumb framebuffers we all merged over the past 2 years
> all use system/dma memory for scanout, and for those we have the very nice
> cma helpers that take care of everything for you.
Do they work if the system/DMA memory has to be physically contiguous
and at a fixed address ? The AST "ARM side" GPU is like that.
> So it is possible, only reason vram dumb buffers look worse is that there's
> only 3 and no one cares about them, vs about 20 and a very active community
> of contributors (also for core drm improvements) for the other case.
Well, we could move offb to drm while at it I suppose that would be another
one (offb is the "dumb driver based on pre-programmed output by firmware).
> Althought the MXSFB driver that just landed does use ttm and vram, so
> maybe that's now improving too.
Cheers,
Ben.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Teddy Wang <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
DRI Development <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
Arnaud Patard <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 22:44:16 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481283856.27965.11.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161209083442.peoriqsto2llvl2t@phenom.ffwll.local>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 09:34 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Yeah if you have discrete vram then your dumb display driver isn't all
> that pretty. We essentially just have the few drivers Dave hacked up to be
> able to boot some servers. And there's definitely lots of room for more
> shared code for those, and also some better infrastructure and helpers to
> share more cod and make them better.
>
> The massive pile of dumb framebuffers we all merged over the past 2 years
> all use system/dma memory for scanout, and for those we have the very nice
> cma helpers that take care of everything for you.
Do they work if the system/DMA memory has to be physically contiguous
and at a fixed address ? The AST "ARM side" GPU is like that.
> So it is possible, only reason vram dumb buffers look worse is that there's
> only 3 and no one cares about them, vs about 20 and a very active community
> of contributors (also for core drm improvements) for the other case.
Well, we could move offb to drm while at it I suppose that would be another
one (offb is the "dumb driver based on pre-programmed output by firmware).
> Althought the MXSFB driver that just landed does use ttm and vram, so
> maybe that's now improving too.
Cheers,
Ben.
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
"Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
"Sudip Mukherjee" <sudipm.mukherjee@gmail.com>,
"Teddy Wang" <teddy.wang@siliconmotion.com>,
"Arnaud Patard" <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>,
"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Linux Fbdev development list" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 22:44:16 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1481283856.27965.11.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161209083442.peoriqsto2llvl2t@phenom.ffwll.local>
On Fri, 2016-12-09 at 09:34 +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> Yeah if you have discrete vram then your dumb display driver isn't all
> that pretty. We essentially just have the few drivers Dave hacked up to be
> able to boot some servers. And there's definitely lots of room for more
> shared code for those, and also some better infrastructure and helpers to
> share more cod and make them better.
>
> The massive pile of dumb framebuffers we all merged over the past 2 years
> all use system/dma memory for scanout, and for those we have the very nice
> cma helpers that take care of everything for you.
Do they work if the system/DMA memory has to be physically contiguous
and at a fixed address ? The AST "ARM side" GPU is like that.
> So it is possible, only reason vram dumb buffers look worse is that there's
> only 3 and no one cares about them, vs about 20 and a very active community
> of contributors (also for core drm improvements) for the other case.
Well, we could move offb to drm while at it I suppose that would be another
one (offb is the "dumb driver based on pre-programmed output by firmware).
> Althought the MXSFB driver that just landed does use ttm and vram, so
> maybe that's now improving too.
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-09 11:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 8:03 [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] staging: remove xgifb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] staging: remove sm750fb Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] staging: remove fbtft Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:03 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-23 17:26 ` Noralf Trønnes
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-24 8:36 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 20:12 ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23 20:12 ` Drew Fustini
2016-11-23 8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] staging: remove fbdev drivers Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:21 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 8:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:12 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 9:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-23 10:05 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-11-23 10:05 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-22 20:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 22:00 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2016-12-08 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 1:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 8:01 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:13 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-13 7:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 10:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 12:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:37 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 14:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 15:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:34 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:35 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-13 7:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 12:33 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:19 ` Lucas Stach
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 13:57 ` David Herrmann
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 14:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 20:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-09 8:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:59 ` Jani Nikula
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 14:22 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-08 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 0:08 ` Dave Airlie
2016-12-09 8:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 8:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-09 11:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 7:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-13 15:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
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