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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>,
	"Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:54:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483710841.12677.1.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8836daaa-9638-4502-d079-fd428595f822@nbd.name>


> The bridge layer can use IGMP snooping to ensure that the multicast
> stream is only transmitted to clients that are actually a member of
> the group. Can the mac80211 feature do the same?

No, it'll convert the packet for all clients that are behind that
netdev. But that's an argument for dropping the mac80211 feature, which
hasn't been merged upstream yet, no?

johannes

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>,
	"Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:54:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483710841.12677.1.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8836daaa-9638-4502-d079-fd428595f822@nbd.name>


> The bridge layer can use IGMP snooping to ensure that the multicast
> stream is only transmitted to clients that are actually a member of
> the group. Can the mac80211 feature do the same?

No, it'll convert the packet for all clients that are behind that
netdev. But that's an argument for dropping the mac80211 feature, which
hasn't been merged upstream yet, no?

johannes

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Felix Fietkau" <nbd@nbd.name>,
	"Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:54:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1483710841.12677.1.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8836daaa-9638-4502-d079-fd428595f822@nbd.name>


> The bridge layer can use IGMP snooping to ensure that the multicast
> stream is only transmitted to clients that are actually a member of
> the group. Can the mac80211 feature do the same?

No, it'll convert the packet for all clients that are behind that
netdev. But that's an argument for dropping the mac80211 feature, which
hasn't been merged upstream yet, no?

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-06 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-02 19:32 [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast Linus Lüssing
2017-01-02 19:32 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-02 19:32 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-03 11:58 ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-01-03 11:58   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov via Bridge
2017-01-03 11:58   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-01-03 13:15 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-03 13:15   ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 12:47 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 12:47   ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 12:47   ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:52   ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:52     ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:54     ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2017-01-06 13:54       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:54       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:54       ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:54         ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-07 10:32       ` [Bridge] " M. Braun
2017-01-07 10:32         ` M. Braun
2017-01-07 10:32         ` M. Braun
2017-01-07 14:55         ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 14:55           ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 14:55           ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09  8:08           ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09  8:08             ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09  8:08             ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 11:44             ` [Bridge] " M. Braun
2017-01-09 11:44               ` M. Braun
2017-01-09 11:44               ` M. Braun
2017-01-09 12:15               ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:15                 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:15                 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:25                 ` [Bridge] " michael-dev
2017-01-09 15:25                   ` michael-dev
2017-01-09 15:47                   ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:47                     ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:47                     ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 21:23               ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 21:23                 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 21:30                 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-09 21:30                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-09 21:30                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-10  4:18                   ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10  4:18                     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10  4:18                     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10 10:56                     ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 10:56                       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 10:56                       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 17:17                       ` [Bridge] " Dave Taht
2017-01-10 17:17                         ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 17:23                         ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 17:23                           ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 17:23                           ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 18:24                           ` [Bridge] " Dave Taht
2017-01-10 18:24                             ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 18:24                             ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 21:27                       ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 21:27                         ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 21:27                         ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 11:26                         ` [Bridge] " IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 11:26                           ` IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 11:30                           ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 11:30                             ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 12:15                             ` [Bridge] " IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 12:15                               ` IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 12:21                               ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 12:21                                 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-07 15:15   ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:15     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:15     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09  8:05     ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09  8:05       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09  8:05       ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:42       ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:42         ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:42         ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:44         ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:44           ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:44           ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 23:12           ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 23:12             ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 23:12             ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-11  9:17             ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-11  9:17               ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-11  9:17               ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-07  3:13 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07  3:13   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07  3:13   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07  3:13   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07 15:06   ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:06     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:06     ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09  8:36   ` [Bridge] " Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2017-01-09  8:36     ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2017-01-09  8:36     ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni

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