From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:17:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1484126278.23671.3.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170109231203.GC5513@otheros>
> > Exactly. My point is that this is breaking the expectation that
> > hosts are actually able to drop such packets.
>
> [readding CCs I removed earlier]
>
> Ah! Thanks. I was worried about creating packetloss :D.
Ah, well, no - at least not in this case.
> Hm, for this other other way round, I think it does not apply for
> the bridge multicast-to-unicast patch if I'm not misreading the
> bridge code:
>
> For a packet with a link-layer multicast address but a unicast IP
> destination, the bridge MDB lookup will fail.
> (http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/bridge/br_multicast.c?v=4.8
> #L178
> returns NULL)
>
> Case A): No multicast router on port:
> -> bridge, br_multicast_flood(), will drop the packet already
> (no matter if multicast-to-unicast is enabled or not)
>
> Case B): Multicast router present on port:
> -> The new patch does not apply multicast-to-unicast but just floods
> packet unaltered
> ("else { port = rport; addr = NULL; }" branch)
Ah, interesting. This is different then - the mac80211 code is not L3
aware at all.
johannes
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:17:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1484126278.23671.3.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170109231203.GC5513@otheros>
> > Exactly. My point is that this is breaking the expectation that
> > hosts are actually able to drop such packets.
>
> [readding CCs I removed earlier]
>
> Ah! Thanks. I was worried about creating packetloss :D.
Ah, well, no - at least not in this case.
> Hm, for this other other way round, I think it does not apply for
> the bridge multicast-to-unicast patch if I'm not misreading the
> bridge code:
>
> For a packet with a link-layer multicast address but a unicast IP
> destination, the bridge MDB lookup will fail.
> (http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/bridge/br_multicast.c?v=4.8
> #L178
> returns NULL)
>
> Case A): No multicast router on port:
> -> bridge, br_multicast_flood(), will drop the packet already
> (no matter if multicast-to-unicast is enabled or not)
>
> Case B): Multicast router present on port:
> -> The new patch does not apply multicast-to-unicast but just floods
> packet unaltered
> ("else { port = rport; addr = NULL; }" branch)
Ah, interesting. This is different then - the mac80211 code is not L3
aware at all.
johannes
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Linus Lüssing" <linus.luessing@c0d3.blue>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Braun <michael-dev@fami-braun.de>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:17:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1484126278.23671.3.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170109231203.GC5513@otheros>
> > Exactly. My point is that this is breaking the expectation that
> > hosts are actually able to drop such packets.
>
> [readding CCs I removed earlier]
>
> Ah! Thanks. I was worried about creating packetloss :D.
Ah, well, no - at least not in this case.
> Hm, for this other other way round, I think it does not apply for
> the bridge multicast-to-unicast patch if I'm not misreading the
> bridge code:
>
> For a packet with a link-layer multicast address but a unicast IP
> destination, the bridge MDB lookup will fail.
> (http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/net/bridge/br_multicast.c?v=4.8
> #L178
> returns NULL)
>
> Case A): No multicast router on port:
> -> bridge, br_multicast_flood(), will drop the packet already
> (no matter if multicast-to-unicast is enabled or not)
>
> Case B): Multicast router present on port:
> -> The new patch does not apply multicast-to-unicast but just floods
> packet unaltered
> ("else { port = rport; addr = NULL; }" branch)
Ah, interesting. This is different then - the mac80211 code is not L3
aware at all.
johannes
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2017-01-02 19:32 [Bridge] [PATCH net-next] bridge: multicast to unicast Linus Lüssing
2017-01-02 19:32 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-02 19:32 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-03 11:58 ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-01-03 11:58 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov via Bridge
2017-01-03 11:58 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-01-03 13:15 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-03 13:15 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 12:47 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 12:47 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 12:47 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:52 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:52 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:54 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:54 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-06 13:54 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-06 13:54 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-07 10:32 ` [Bridge] " M. Braun
2017-01-07 10:32 ` M. Braun
2017-01-07 10:32 ` M. Braun
2017-01-07 14:55 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 14:55 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 14:55 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 8:08 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 8:08 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 8:08 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 11:44 ` [Bridge] " M. Braun
2017-01-09 11:44 ` M. Braun
2017-01-09 11:44 ` M. Braun
2017-01-09 12:15 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:15 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:15 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:25 ` [Bridge] " michael-dev
2017-01-09 15:25 ` michael-dev
2017-01-09 15:47 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:47 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 15:47 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 21:23 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 21:23 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 21:30 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-09 21:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-09 21:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-10 4:18 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10 4:18 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10 4:18 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-10 10:56 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 10:56 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 10:56 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-10 17:17 ` [Bridge] " Dave Taht
2017-01-10 17:17 ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 17:23 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 17:23 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 17:23 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 18:24 ` [Bridge] " Dave Taht
2017-01-10 18:24 ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 18:24 ` Dave Taht
2017-01-10 21:27 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 21:27 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-10 21:27 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 11:26 ` [Bridge] " IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 11:26 ` IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 11:30 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 11:30 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 12:15 ` [Bridge] " IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 12:15 ` IgorMitsyanko
2017-01-11 12:21 ` [Bridge] " Felix Fietkau
2017-01-11 12:21 ` Felix Fietkau
2017-01-07 15:15 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:15 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:15 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 8:05 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 8:05 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 8:05 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:42 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:42 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:42 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 12:44 ` [Bridge] " Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:44 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 12:44 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-09 23:12 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 23:12 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 23:12 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-11 9:17 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2017-01-11 9:17 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-11 9:17 ` Johannes Berg
2017-01-07 3:13 ` [Bridge] " Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07 3:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07 3:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07 3:13 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-01-07 15:06 ` [Bridge] " Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:06 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-07 15:06 ` Linus Lüssing
2017-01-09 8:36 ` [Bridge] " Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2017-01-09 8:36 ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2017-01-09 8:36 ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
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