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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:51:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15160.1177429867@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070424142244.GA158@tv-sign.ru>

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:

> Let's look at (2). cancel_delayed_work() (on top of del_timer()) returns 0,
> and this is correct, we failed to cancel the timer, and we don't know whether
> work->func() finished, or not.

Yes.

> The current code uses del_timer_sync(). It will also return 0. However, it
> will spin waiting for timer->function() to complete. So we are just wasting
> CPU.

That's my objection to using cancel_delayed_work() as it stands, although in
most cases it's a relatively minor waste of time.  However, if the timer
expiry routine gets interrupted then it may not be so minor...  So, yes, I'm
in full agreement with you there.

> I guess I misunderstood you. Perhaps, you propose a new helper which use
> try_to_del_timer_sync(), yes? Unless I missed something, this doesn't help.
> Because the return value == -1 should be treated as 0. We failed to stop
> the timer, and we can't free dwork.

Consider how I'm using try_to_cancel_delayed_work(): I use this when I want to
queue a delayed work item with a particular timeout (usually for immediate
processing), but the work item may already be pending.

If try_to_cancel_delayed_work() returns 0 or 1 (not pending or pending but
dequeued) then I can go ahead and just schedule the work item (I'll be holding
a lock to prevent anyone else from interfering).

However, if try_to_cancel_delayed_work() returns -1 then there's no usually no
point attempting to schedule the work item because I know the timer expiry
handler is doing that or going to do that.


The code looks like this in pretty much all cases:

	if (try_to_cancel_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper) >= 0)
		schedule_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper, 0);

And so could well be packaged into a convenience routine and placed in
workqueue.[ch].  However, this would still concern Dave Miller as my patches
would still be altering non-net stuff or depending on non-net patches he
doesn't have in his GIT tree.

Using cancel_delayer_work() instead would be acceptable, functionally, as that
just waits till the -1 return case no longer holds true, and so always returns
0 or 1.


In RxRPC, this is only used to cancel a pair global delayed work items in the
rmmod path, and so the inefficiency of cancel_delayed_work() is something I
can live with, though it's something I'd want to reduce in the longer term.

In AFS, this is not only used in object destruction paths, but is also used to
cancel the callback timer and initiate synchronisation processing with
immediate effect.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 237+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-19  6:52 Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23     ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:19     ` Scott Murray
2007-04-27 22:07     ` Scott Murray
2007-05-04 11:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 18:18         ` Scott Murray
2007-05-09 23:24           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10  0:00             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-05-10 18:29             ` Scott Murray
2007-05-10 19:30               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  1:54   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37       ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  8:19   ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41     ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:23     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21       ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:11       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03       ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-23 19:03         ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41     ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12         ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22             ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16               ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 12:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  1:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  1:38         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:08           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:42             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  3:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  3:20               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:34               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:34                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:34                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:00                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:43                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:43                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:58                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  6:17                   ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24  6:17                     ` lkml777
2007-04-24 17:26                     ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-24  7:46                 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24  7:46                   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24         ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 17:24           ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  5:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  5:55       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  8:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24  8:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23  3:12       ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32   ` David Howells
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32   ` David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18       ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18           ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14         ` David Miller
2007-04-20  1:15           ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20  8:02           ` David Howells
2007-04-20  8:58             ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41               ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23  8:32                     ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37                         ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51                             ` David Howells [this message]
2007-04-24 16:40                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 16:58                                 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22                                     ` David Howells
2007-04-24 19:34                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25  8:10                                         ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45                                             ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48               ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05     ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  7:47       ` David Howells
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:04   ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:21   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:19       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  9:37         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  0:47   ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01  6:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig

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