From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
ebiederm@xmission.com, containers@lists.osdl.org,
hch@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:58:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16575.1177433907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070424164001.GA328@tv-sign.ru>
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:
> > > The current code uses del_timer_sync(). It will also return 0. However,
> > > it will spin waiting for timer->function() to complete. So we are just
> > > wasting CPU.
> >
> > That's my objection to using cancel_delayed_work() as it stands, although in
> > most cases it's a relatively minor waste of time. However, if the timer
> > expiry routine gets interrupted then it may not be so minor... So, yes, I'm
> > in full agreement with you there.
>
> Great. I'll send the s/del_timer_sync/del_timer/ patch.
I didn't say I necessarily agreed that this was a good idea. I just meant that
I agree that it will waste CPU. You must still audit all uses of
cancel_delayed_work().
> Aha, now I see what you mean. However. Why the code above is better then
>
> cancel_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper);
> schedule_delayed_work(&afs_server_reaper, 0);
>
> ? (I assume we already changed cancel_delayed_work() to use del_timer).
Because calling schedule_delayed_work() is a waste of CPU if the timer expiry
handler is currently running at this time as *that* is going to also schedule
the delayed work item.
> If delayed_work_timer_fn() is not running - both variants (let's denote them
> as 1 and 2) do the same.
Yes, but that's not the point.
> Now suppose that delayed_work_timer_fn() is running.
>
> 1: lock_timer_base(), return -1, skip schedule_delayed_work().
>
> 2: check timer_pending(), return 0, call schedule_delayed_work(),
> return immediately because test_and_set_bit(WORK_STRUCT_PENDING)
> fails.
I don't see what you're illustrating here. Are these meant to be two steps in
a single process? Or are they two alternate steps?
> So I still don't think try_to_del_timer_sync() can help in this particular
> case.
It permits us to avoid the test_and_set_bit() under some circumstances.
> To some extent, try_to_cancel_delayed_work is
>
> int try_to_cancel_delayed_work(dwork)
> {
> ret = cancel_delayed_work(dwork);
> if (!ret && work_pending(&dwork->work))
> ret = -1;
> return ret;
> }
>
> iow, work_pending() looks like a more "precise" indication that work->func()
> is going to run soon.
Ah, but the timer routine may try to set the work item pending flag *after* the
work_pending() check you have here. Furthermore, it would be better to avoid
the work_pending() check entirely because that check involves interacting with
atomic ops done on other CPUs. try_to_del_timer_sync() returning -1 tells us
without a shadow of a doubt that the work item is either scheduled now or will
be scheduled very shortly, thus allowing us to avoid having to do it ourself.
David
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2007-04-19 6:52 Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Eric W. Biederman
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2007-04-19 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
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2007-05-10 19:30 ` Andrew Morton
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2007-04-22 12:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
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2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 1:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 8:19 ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41 ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 6:23 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21 ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03 ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-23 19:03 ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22 ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16 ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 2:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2007-04-24 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
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2007-04-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2007-04-24 5:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2007-04-24 5:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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2007-04-24 17:26 ` Eric M. Hopper
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2007-04-24 7:46 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 17:24 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 8:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 8:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 3:12 ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:32 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:32 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18 ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
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2007-04-23 8:32 ` David Howells
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2007-04-25 8:10 ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45 ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 7:47 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:04 ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
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2007-04-19 21:25 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 6:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 9:37 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
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2007-05-01 6:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig
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