From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "<Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
containers@lists.osdl.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:42:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177382544.14873.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ejmav80l.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 20:08 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
>
> >> The only reason for using threads here is to get the error recovery
> >> out of an interrupt context (where errors may be detected), and then,
> >> an hour later, decrement a counter (which is how we limit these to
> >> 6 per hour). Thread reaping is "trivial", the thread just exits
> >> after an hour.
> >
> > In addition, it should be a thread and not done from within keventd
> > because :
> >
> > - It can take a long time (well, relatively but still too long for a
> > work queue)
> >
> > - The driver callbacks might need to use keventd or do flush_workqueue
> > to synchronize with their own workqueues when doing an internal
> > recovery.
> >
> >> Since these are events rare, I've no particular concern about
> >> performance or resource consumption. The current code seems
> >> to work just fine. :-)
> >
> > I think moving to kthread's is cleaner (just a wrapper around kernel
> > threads that simplify dealing with reaping them out mostly) and I agree
> > with Christoph that it would be nice to be able to "fire off" kthreads
> > from interrupt context.. in many cases, we abuse work queues for things
> > that should really done from kthreads instead (basically anything that
> > takes more than a couple hundred microsecs or so).
>
> On that note does anyone have a problem is we manage the irq spawning
> safe kthreads the same way that we manage the work queue entries.
>
> i.e. by a structure allocated by the caller?
Not sure... I can see places where I might want to spawn an arbitrary
number of these without having to preallocate structures... and if I
allocate on the fly, then I need a way to free that structure when the
kthread is reaped which I don't think we have currently, do we ? (In
fact, I could use that for other things too now that I'm thinking of
it ... I might have a go at providing optional kthread destructors).
Ben.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"<Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
containers@lists.osdl.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:42:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177382544.14873.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1ejmav80l.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 20:08 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
>
> >> The only reason for using threads here is to get the error recovery
> >> out of an interrupt context (where errors may be detected), and then,
> >> an hour later, decrement a counter (which is how we limit these to
> >> 6 per hour). Thread reaping is "trivial", the thread just exits
> >> after an hour.
> >
> > In addition, it should be a thread and not done from within keventd
> > because :
> >
> > - It can take a long time (well, relatively but still too long for a
> > work queue)
> >
> > - The driver callbacks might need to use keventd or do flush_workqueue
> > to synchronize with their own workqueues when doing an internal
> > recovery.
> >
> >> Since these are events rare, I've no particular concern about
> >> performance or resource consumption. The current code seems
> >> to work just fine. :-)
> >
> > I think moving to kthread's is cleaner (just a wrapper around kernel
> > threads that simplify dealing with reaping them out mostly) and I agree
> > with Christoph that it would be nice to be able to "fire off" kthreads
> > from interrupt context.. in many cases, we abuse work queues for things
> > that should really done from kthreads instead (basically anything that
> > takes more than a couple hundred microsecs or so).
>
> On that note does anyone have a problem is we manage the irq spawning
> safe kthreads the same way that we manage the work queue entries.
>
> i.e. by a structure allocated by the caller?
Not sure... I can see places where I might want to spawn an arbitrary
number of these without having to preallocate structures... and if I
allocate on the fly, then I need a way to free that structure when the
kthread is reaped which I don't think we have currently, do we ? (In
fact, I could use that for other things too now that I'm thinking of
it ... I might have a go at providing optional kthread destructors).
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-24 2:42 UTC|newest]
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2007-04-19 6:52 Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:19 ` Scott Murray
2007-04-27 22:07 ` Scott Murray
2007-05-04 11:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 18:18 ` Scott Murray
2007-05-09 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10 0:00 ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-05-10 18:29 ` Scott Murray
2007-05-10 19:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 1:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 0:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37 ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 8:19 ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41 ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 6:23 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21 ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:11 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03 ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-23 19:03 ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22 ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16 ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00 ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 12:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 2:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2007-04-24 2:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 3:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 3:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 5:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 5:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 5:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 6:17 ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24 6:17 ` lkml777
2007-04-24 17:26 ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-24 7:46 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 7:46 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 17:24 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 8:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 8:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 3:12 ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20 ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:32 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:32 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18 ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14 ` David Miller
2007-04-20 1:15 ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20 8:02 ` David Howells
2007-04-20 8:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41 ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 8:32 ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 16:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 16:58 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 19:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 8:10 ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45 ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 7:47 ` David Howells
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 9:04 ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 21:25 ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 6:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 9:37 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01 0:47 ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01 6:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig
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