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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions...
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:52:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1slawn9eb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)


The following patches are against 2.6.21.rc6-mm1.
Hopefully that is enough to catch most of the recent development
activity.

I am aiming to remove all kernel threads that handle signals
from user space, to remove all calls to daemonize and kernel_thread
from non-core kernel code.

kernel thrreads handling signals from user space is a problem because
it makes the kernel thread part of the user/kernel API which make
changing things difficult and it breaks as soon as you are inside of
a pid namespace because you won't be able to see your kernel thread.

Calling kernel_thread has problems because it returns a pid_t value
which once we get to the pid namespace is context depending so it
cannot be used to globally identify a process.  kernel_thread is
also a problem because it traps user space state and requires us
to call daemonize to free that state.

daemonize is a maintenance problem because every time you play with
user space state and limiting things you need to remember to update
daemonize.  Occasionally it has taken years like in the case of the
mount namespace before someone realizes they need to update it.
With the kthread api we no longer need daemonize.

In addition we don't want kernel threads visible in anything but
the initial pid namespace or they will hold a reference to a
child pid namespace.  However calling kernel_thread from a non-kernel
parent in a child pid namespace will give the thread a pid in
the child pid namespace, and there is nothing daemonize can do about
it.  So daemonize appears impossible to support going forward, and
I choose to remove all of it's callers rather than attempt to support
it.

Eric

             reply	other threads:[~2007-04-19  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 237+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-19  6:52 Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19 19:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:26       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 13:23     ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-22 19:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 19:40     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:19     ` Scott Murray
2007-04-27 22:07     ` Scott Murray
2007-05-04 11:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 18:18         ` Scott Murray
2007-05-09 23:24           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10  0:00             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2007-05-10 18:29             ` Scott Murray
2007-05-10 19:30               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20 12:48   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 13:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:55 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  6:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 balance_irq: Convert to the kthread api Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] i386 voyager: Convert the monitor thread to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] mtd_blkdevs: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpci_hotplug: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ibmphp: Convert to use the kthreads API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] cpqphp: Convert to use the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  1:54   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] pnpbios: Conert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sas_scsi_host: Convert " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 21:37       ` James Bottomley
2007-04-22 21:48         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] sparc64/power.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-20  0:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/net/lcs: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  8:19   ` Frank Pavlic
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390 qeth: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] s390/scsi/zfcp_erp: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-30 10:41     ` Swen Schillig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] arm ecard: Conver " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ia64 sn xpc: Convert to use " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:23     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-20 14:21       ` Robin Holt
2007-04-21 19:53         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 20:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 17:11     ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:11       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-04-23 17:36       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 17:36         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 19:03       ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-23 19:03         ` Russ Anderson
2007-04-27 17:41     ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 18:34       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-27 20:12         ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-27 20:33           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-30 15:22             ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:16               ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:44                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-17 13:44                   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-26 20:00   ` Dean Nelson
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 12:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 12:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  1:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  1:38         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:08         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:08           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  2:42           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  2:42             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  3:20             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  3:20               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:34               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:34                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:34                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:51                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  4:51                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:00                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:43                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:43                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24  5:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  5:58                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24  6:17                   ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24  6:17                     ` lkml777
2007-04-24 17:26                     ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-24  7:46                 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24  7:46                   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24         ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 17:24           ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24  5:55     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  5:55       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  8:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24  8:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries rtasd: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_pm72.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 19:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 22:46     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/therm_windtunnel.c: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:37   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:53     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/adb: Convert to the " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] macintosh/mediabay: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:30   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  8:51     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth bnep: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:24   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 10:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-20 12:37       ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-21 16:11         ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-22 19:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23  3:12       ` [PATCH] kthread: Spontaneous exit support Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 11:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 16:58           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 17:45             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-23 18:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 18:20               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:08           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 13:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth cmtp: Convert to use kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth hidp: Convert to " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:20   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] bluetooth rfcomm: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 23:12   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 15:20     ` [Devel] " Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-22 20:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] fs/afs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32   ` David Howells
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:32   ` David Howells
2007-04-19 13:05     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 14:18       ` Getting the new RxRPC patches upstream David Howells
2007-04-19 15:50         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:18           ` David Howells
2007-04-19 19:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 20:14         ` David Miller
2007-04-20  1:15           ` Herbert Xu
2007-04-20  8:02           ` David Howells
2007-04-20  8:58             ` David Miller
2007-04-20 10:41               ` David Howells
2007-04-20 18:38                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:28                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23  8:32                     ` David Howells
2007-04-23 17:11                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 13:37                         ` David Howells
2007-04-24 14:22                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 15:51                             ` David Howells
2007-04-24 16:40                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 16:58                                 ` David Howells
2007-04-24 17:33                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 18:22                                     ` David Howells
2007-04-24 19:34                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25  8:10                                         ` David Howells
2007-04-25 10:41                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-25 10:45                                             ` David Howells
2007-04-25 13:48               ` David Howells
2007-04-19 23:05     ` [PATCH] net/rxrpc: Convert to kthread API Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  7:47       ` David Howells
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] ipv4/ipvs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  9:04   ` Simon Horman
2007-04-19 22:59     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 19:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] saa7134-tvaudio: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:52   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:58 ` [PATCH] nfs lockd reclaimer: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:21   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 19:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:19       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19 21:25         ` Dave Hansen
2007-04-21 19:04           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 21:40         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19 22:04           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-21 19:47             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsv4 delegation: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:22   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfsd/nfs4state: Remove unnecessary daemonize call Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] nfs4state reclaimer: Remove unnecessary allow_signal Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 16:26   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] smbfs: " Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:47   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] dvb_en_50221: Convert to kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19 22:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  6:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-20  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20  9:37         ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] md: Remove broken SIGKILL support Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  0:47   ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01  6:13     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` [PATCH] synchro_test: Convert to the kthread API Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-19  7:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-22 12:15 ` Remaining straight forward kthread API conversions Christoph Hellwig

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