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From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	dhowells@redhat.com, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org,
	linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@m17n.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-390@vm.marist.edu, linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:47:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041021084728.GA5033@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041020160450.0914270b.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Wed, 2004-10-20 16:04:50 -0700, David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
wrote in message <20041020160450.0914270b.davem@davemloft.net>:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:56:25 +0200
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:

*VAX hacker's hat on*

> I disagree quite strongly.  One major frustration for users of
> non-x86 platforms is that functionality is often missing for some
> time that we can make trivial to keep in sync.

Full ACK.

> Simply put, if you're not watching the tree in painstaking detail
> every day, you miss all of these enhancements.

Right; and these missing enhancements will cause extra-pain when they're
used some time later from core code. That is, you missed the feature
while it was discusses/accepted and need to put it in place later on. So
you've got to do extra searching etc.

> The knowledge should come from the person putting the changes into
> the tree, therefore it gets done once and this makes it so that
> the other platform maintainers will find out about it automatically
> next time they update their tree.

Here's my proposal:

$ mkdir ./Documentation/new_enhancements_to_implement
$ cat ./Documentation/new_enhancements_to_implement/new_key_syscalls << EOF
> Dear Architecture Maintailers,
> 
> please add these four new cryptographic key functions to your syscall
> table. It's quite easy; just extend the ./include/arch-xxx/unistd.h
> for four new defines and then add them to your ./arch/xxx/kernel/entry.S
> file. For reference, here's my i386 patch doing this:
> 
> diff -Nurp
> --- path-old/to/file/one
> +++ path-new/to/file/one
>  text
> -del
> +add
>  more text
> 
> 
> Thanks, your keychain hacker:-)
> EOF
$

This way, all arch maintainers just *see* what needs to be done and
get a small introduction on how to do that. I'd *really* like to see
that! That would particularly help those that cannot do full-time
hacking on their port (like us VAX hackers:-)

MfG, JBG

-- 
Jan-Benedict Glaw       jbglaw@lug-owl.de    . +49-172-7608481             _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in  einem Freien Kopf    | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg  _ _ O
 fuer einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger" | im Internet! |   im Irak!   O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));

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From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	dhowells@redhat.com, torvalds@osdl.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, discuss@x86-64.org,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org,
	linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@m17n.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	parisc-linux@parisc-linux.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-390@vm.marist.edu, linux-mips@linux-mips.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:47:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041021084728.GA5033@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041020160450.0914270b.davem@davemloft.net>

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On Wed, 2004-10-20 16:04:50 -0700, David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
wrote in message <20041020160450.0914270b.davem@davemloft.net>:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:56:25 +0200
> Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:

*VAX hacker's hat on*

> I disagree quite strongly.  One major frustration for users of
> non-x86 platforms is that functionality is often missing for some
> time that we can make trivial to keep in sync.

Full ACK.

> Simply put, if you're not watching the tree in painstaking detail
> every day, you miss all of these enhancements.

Right; and these missing enhancements will cause extra-pain when they're
used some time later from core code. That is, you missed the feature
while it was discusses/accepted and need to put it in place later on. So
you've got to do extra searching etc.

> The knowledge should come from the person putting the changes into
> the tree, therefore it gets done once and this makes it so that
> the other platform maintainers will find out about it automatically
> next time they update their tree.

Here's my proposal:

$ mkdir ./Documentation/new_enhancements_to_implement
$ cat ./Documentation/new_enhancements_to_implement/new_key_syscalls << EOF
> Dear Architecture Maintailers,
> 
> please add these four new cryptographic key functions to your syscall
> table. It's quite easy; just extend the ./include/arch-xxx/unistd.h
> for four new defines and then add them to your ./arch/xxx/kernel/entry.S
> file. For reference, here's my i386 patch doing this:
> 
> diff -Nurp
> --- path-old/to/file/one
> +++ path-new/to/file/one
>  text
> -del
> +add
>  more text
> 
> 
> Thanks, your keychain hacker:-)
> EOF
$

This way, all arch maintainers just *see* what needs to be done and
get a small introduction on how to do that. I'd *really* like to see
that! That would particularly help those that cannot do full-time
hacking on their port (like us VAX hackers:-)

MfG, JBG

-- 
Jan-Benedict Glaw       jbglaw@lug-owl.de    . +49-172-7608481             _ O _
"Eine Freie Meinung in  einem Freien Kopf    | Gegen Zensur | Gegen Krieg  _ _ O
 fuer einen Freien Staat voll Freier Bürger" | im Internet! |   im Irak!   O O O
ret = do_actions((curr | FREE_SPEECH) & ~(NEW_COPYRIGHT_LAW | DRM | TCPA));

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-21  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-20 14:44 [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs David Howells
2004-10-20 14:44 ` David Howells
2004-10-20 15:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-20 15:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-20 17:50   ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-20 17:50     ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-20 18:18     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-20 18:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-20 15:49 ` [parisc-linux] " Matthew Wilcox
2004-10-20 15:49   ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-10-20 16:16   ` David Howells
2004-10-20 16:16     ` David Howells
2004-10-20 16:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-21  3:14   ` [uClinux-dev] " Greg Ungerer
2004-10-20 17:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-10-20 17:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2004-10-20 22:01 ` David S. Miller
2004-10-20 22:01   ` David S. Miller
2004-10-20 22:56   ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2004-10-20 22:56     ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-20 23:04     ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 David S. Miller
2004-10-20 23:04       ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs David S. Miller
2004-10-20 23:25       ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-20 23:25         ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-20 23:41         ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 David S. Miller
2004-10-20 23:41           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-20 23:41           ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs David S. Miller
2004-10-20 23:41           ` David S. Miller
2004-10-21  0:10           ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-21  0:10             ` Andi Kleen
2004-10-21  8:03           ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-21  8:03             ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-21  1:55       ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-21  1:55         ` [discuss] Re: [PATCH] Add key management syscalls to non-i386 archs Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-10-21  8:47       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2004-10-21  8:47         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw

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