From: Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <lkcl@lkcl.net>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>,
Darrel Goeddel <dgoeddel@TrustedCS.com>,
"selinux@tycho.nsa.gov" <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Chad Hanson <chanson@TrustedCS.com>,
samba-technical@samba.org
Subject: Re: dynamic context transitions
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:21:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041101222111.GN9643@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1099342233.21386.233.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 03:50:33PM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 16:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> > > Except that SELinux mediates access to file descriptors upon transfer
> > > via local socket IPC as well as attempted use for read/write, so SELinux
> > > is still going to apply a permission check to the parent smbd process in
> > > that situation.
> >
> > that i would expect.
>
> So you are ok with allowing smbd_t the union of all smbd_$1_t
> permissions?
i haven't analysed the samba.te policy in enough detail to be able to
say.
> > > Not to mention that this no doubt has a significant
> > > cost.
> >
> > that i was not expecting.
>
> Not the cost of the mediation, the cost of fork+exec'ing these children
> for each client.
oh right!
> Isn't that likely to add significant overhead?
that can be mitigated against by using techniques already in place in
apache: pre-forking.
i am genuinely surprised that, several years after apache deployed the
technique of pre-forking (which wasn't new then), samba doesn't do
likewise.
... so that would leave russell's and andrew's technique still as the
top simplest solution, with pre-forking as a possible way to reduce
latency.
l.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-01 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-29 19:10 dynamic context transitions Darrel Goeddel
2004-10-29 21:18 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-10-30 9:06 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 13:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 14:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 16:23 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-01 16:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 18:45 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 20:10 ` James Morris
2004-11-01 20:35 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 20:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 21:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 20:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 22:21 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton [this message]
2004-11-08 14:42 ` Russell Coker
[not found] ` <1100395104.13794.12.camel@piglett.bartlett.house>
2004-11-14 11:15 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[not found] ` <1100431351.13794.510.camel@piglett.bartlett.house>
[not found] ` <20041114162453.GN5031@lkcl.net>
[not found] ` <1100449615.30740.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2004-11-14 21:54 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[not found] ` <20041201231224.GD5862@Favog.ubiqx.mn.org>
2004-12-02 1:46 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-08 14:39 ` Russell Coker
[not found] ` <20041203211212.GA5243@lkcl.net>
[not found] ` <16817.7759.874421.597181@samba.org>
2004-12-04 11:39 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-01 21:27 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-01 22:33 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-02 0:25 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-02 13:43 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 14:16 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-02 14:19 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 20:21 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-25 19:48 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-25 21:35 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-26 3:28 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-26 19:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-26 18:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-02 2:18 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-02 9:08 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-02 13:59 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 14:59 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-01 16:45 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-01 18:23 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-10-30 2:41 ` James Morris
2004-10-31 22:47 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-01 13:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 1:03 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-02 15:33 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 17:39 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-02 18:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 21:33 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 13:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 15:08 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-25 20:12 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-03 17:53 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-03 18:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 15:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 16:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 21:44 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-12 18:42 ` Amy L Herzog
2004-11-15 14:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-19 13:48 ` Joshua D. Guttman
2004-11-19 14:33 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-19 16:29 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-19 17:17 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-24 15:30 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-24 15:31 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-29 14:54 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-29 21:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-29 23:41 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-30 12:58 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-30 15:14 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-30 16:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-30 18:27 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-30 21:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-12 18:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-12 20:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-01 14:11 Chad Hanson
2004-11-01 17:14 Chad Hanson
2004-11-01 20:04 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-01 20:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 18:28 Chad Hanson
2004-11-01 20:47 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-01 20:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 22:58 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-02 13:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 14:06 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-02 14:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 14:36 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-03 18:47 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-02 14:13 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-03 15:38 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-02 19:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-11-03 15:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-03 16:03 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-01 21:33 Chad Hanson
2004-11-02 13:31 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-23 5:53 ` Russell Coker
2004-11-01 21:45 Chad Hanson
2004-11-02 15:25 Chad Hanson
2004-11-02 18:49 Chad Hanson
2004-11-02 21:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-02 22:06 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 15:36 Chad Hanson
2004-11-03 15:46 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-03 17:26 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-04 16:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-04 17:25 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-04 19:46 ` James Morris
2004-11-05 5:31 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 12:49 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 13:01 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-05 13:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:55 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-05 16:33 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 16:41 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 17:07 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-05 17:48 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 16:01 ` Colin Walters
2004-11-05 12:52 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-05 13:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:04 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-05 15:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:33 ` Karl MacMillan
2004-11-05 15:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-05 15:34 ` Darrel Goeddel
2004-11-05 16:01 ` Frank Mayer
2004-11-05 16:29 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-05 16:44 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-03 18:00 Chad Hanson
2004-11-14 20:23 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-15 13:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-15 14:34 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-15 14:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2004-11-15 1:57 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2004-11-15 13:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-15 21:34 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-02-15 22:21 ` Darrel Goeddel
2005-02-15 22:56 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-02-16 13:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-16 14:08 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-02-16 14:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-02-16 15:19 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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