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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart@bull.net>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, vojtech@suse.cz,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW: New x86-64 vsyscall vgetcpu()
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:56:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606161656.40930.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4492A5E4.9050702@bull.net>

On Friday 16 June 2006 14:36, Zoltan Menyhart wrote:
> Just to make sure I understand it correctly...
> Assuming I have allocated per CPU data (numa control, etc.) pointed at by:
> 
> 	void *per_cpu[MAXCPUS];


That is not how user space TLS works. It usually has a base a register.

> 
> Assuming a per CPU variable has got an "offset" in each per CPU data area.
> Accessing this variable can be done as follows:
> 
> 	err = vgetcpu(&my_cpu, ...);
> 	if (err)
> 		goto ....
> 	pointer = (typeof pointer) (per_cpu[my_cpu] + offset);
> 	// use "pointer"...
> 
> It is hundred times more long than "__get_per_cpu(var)++".

14 cycles is not a 100 times longer.

> My idea is to map the current task structure at an arch. dependent
> virtual address into the user space (obviously in RO).
> 
> 	#define current	((struct task_struct *) 0x...)

This means it cannot be cache colored (because you would need a static
offset) and you couldn't share task_structs on a page.

Also you would make task_struct part of the userland ABI which
seems like a very very bad idea to me. It means we couldn't change
it anymore.

-Andi

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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart@bull.net>
Cc: Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, vojtech@suse.cz,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FOR REVIEW: New x86-64 vsyscall vgetcpu()
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:56:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200606161656.40930.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4492A5E4.9050702@bull.net>

On Friday 16 June 2006 14:36, Zoltan Menyhart wrote:
> Just to make sure I understand it correctly...
> Assuming I have allocated per CPU data (numa control, etc.) pointed at by:
> 
> 	void *per_cpu[MAXCPUS];


That is not how user space TLS works. It usually has a base a register.

> 
> Assuming a per CPU variable has got an "offset" in each per CPU data area.
> Accessing this variable can be done as follows:
> 
> 	err = vgetcpu(&my_cpu, ...);
> 	if (err)
> 		goto ....
> 	pointer = (typeof pointer) (per_cpu[my_cpu] + offset);
> 	// use "pointer"...
> 
> It is hundred times more long than "__get_per_cpu(var)++".

14 cycles is not a 100 times longer.

> My idea is to map the current task structure at an arch. dependent
> virtual address into the user space (obviously in RO).
> 
> 	#define current	((struct task_struct *) 0x...)

This means it cannot be cache colored (because you would need a static
offset) and you couldn't share task_structs on a page.

Also you would make task_struct part of the userland ABI which
seems like a very very bad idea to me. It means we couldn't change
it anymore.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-16 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-14  7:42 FOR REVIEW: New x86-64 vsyscall vgetcpu() Andi Kleen
2006-06-14 10:47 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-14 14:54 ` Steve Munroe
2006-06-15 23:17   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found] ` <449029DB.7030505@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <200606141752.02361.ak@suse.de>
2006-06-14 16:30     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-06-14 17:34       ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-15 18:44 ` Tony Luck
2006-06-16  6:22   ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16  7:23     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-06-16  7:37       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16  9:48     ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16  9:48       ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 10:09       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 10:09         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 11:02         ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 11:02           ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 11:17           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 11:17             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 11:58             ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 11:58               ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 12:36               ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 12:36                 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 12:41                 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 12:41                   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-16 12:48                   ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 12:48                     ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 21:04                     ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 21:04                       ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 14:56                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2006-06-16 14:56                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 15:31                   ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 15:31                     ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-16 15:37                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 15:37                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 15:58                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-16 15:58                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-16 16:24                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 16:24                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 16:33                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-16 16:33                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-06-16 21:12                     ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 21:12                       ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 15:36                   ` Brent Casavant
2006-06-16 15:36                     ` Brent Casavant
2006-06-16 15:40                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 15:40                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 21:15                       ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 21:15                         ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 21:19                       ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 21:19                         ` Chase Venters
2006-06-16 23:40                         ` Brent Casavant
2006-06-16 23:40                           ` Brent Casavant
2006-06-17  6:58                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-17  6:58                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-17  6:55                         ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-17  6:55                           ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19  8:42                           ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-19  8:42                             ` Zoltan Menyhart
2006-06-19  8:54                             ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19  8:54                               ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 14:54               ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-16 14:54                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-20  8:28                 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-20  8:28                   ` Jes Sorensen
2006-06-19  0:15 ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-19  8:21   ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 10:09     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-21  1:18     ` Paul Jackson
2006-06-21  1:21       ` Paul Jackson

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