From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
npiggin@suse.de, clameter@engr.sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu,
jschopp@austin.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mbligh@mbligh.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The performance and behaviour of the anti-fragmentation related patches
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:58:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070302085838.bcf9099e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45E842F6.5010105@redhat.com>
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:29:58 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > And I'd judge that per-container RSS limits are of considerably more value
> > than antifrag (in fact per-container RSS might be a superset of antifrag,
> > in the sense that per-container RSS and containers could be abused to fix
> > the i-cant-get-any-hugepages problem, dunno).
>
> The RSS bits really worry me, since it looks like they could
> exacerbate the scalability problems that we are already running
> into on very large memory systems.
Using a zone-per-container or N-64MB-zones-per-container should actually
move us in the direction of *fixing* any such problems. Because, to a
first-order, the scanning of such a zone has the same behaviour as a 64MB
machine.
(We'd run into a few other problems, some related to the globalness of the
dirty-memory management, but that's fixable).
> Linux is *not* happy on 256GB systems. Even on some 32GB systems
> the swappiness setting *needs* to be tweaked before Linux will even
> run in a reasonable way.
Please send testcases.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
npiggin@suse.de, clameter@engr.sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu,
jschopp@austin.ibm.com, arjan@infradead.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mbligh@mbligh.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The performance and behaviour of the anti-fragmentation related patches
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:58:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070302085838.bcf9099e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45E842F6.5010105@redhat.com>
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:29:58 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > And I'd judge that per-container RSS limits are of considerably more value
> > than antifrag (in fact per-container RSS might be a superset of antifrag,
> > in the sense that per-container RSS and containers could be abused to fix
> > the i-cant-get-any-hugepages problem, dunno).
>
> The RSS bits really worry me, since it looks like they could
> exacerbate the scalability problems that we are already running
> into on very large memory systems.
Using a zone-per-container or N-64MB-zones-per-container should actually
move us in the direction of *fixing* any such problems. Because, to a
first-order, the scanning of such a zone has the same behaviour as a 64MB
machine.
(We'd run into a few other problems, some related to the globalness of the
dirty-memory management, but that's fixable).
> Linux is *not* happy on 256GB systems. Even on some 32GB systems
> the swappiness setting *needs* to be tweaked before Linux will even
> run in a reasonable way.
Please send testcases.
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2007-03-01 10:12 The performance and behaviour of the anti-fragmentation related patches Mel Gorman
2007-03-01 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 0:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 1:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 1:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 3:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 3:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 3:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 3:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 5:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 5:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 5:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-03-02 5:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-03-02 6:15 ` Paul Mundt
2007-03-02 6:15 ` Paul Mundt
2007-03-02 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 16:20 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 16:20 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 17:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 17:07 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 17:35 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 17:35 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 18:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 18:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 19:02 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 19:02 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 18:45 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 18:45 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-02 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-02 23:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-02 23:58 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-02 4:18 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 4:18 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 5:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-02 5:13 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-06 4:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-06 4:16 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-02 16:58 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 16:58 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:05 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-02 17:05 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-05 3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-05 3:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-05 15:20 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-05 15:20 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-05 16:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-05 16:01 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-05 16:45 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-05 16:45 ` Joel Schopp
2007-05-03 8:49 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-03 8:49 ` Andy Whitcroft
2007-03-02 1:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 1:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-03-02 2:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-03-02 2:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-03-02 3:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 3:05 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 4:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 4:21 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 4:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 5:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 5:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 5:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 5:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 6:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 6:08 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 6:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 6:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 6:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 6:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 6:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 6:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 7:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 7:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 7:44 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 8:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 8:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 8:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 8:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 8:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 8:38 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-02 17:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 17:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-04 1:26 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-04 1:26 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-04 1:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-04 1:51 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-04 1:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-04 1:58 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 5:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 5:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 4:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 4:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 4:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 4:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 4:20 ` Paul Mundt
2007-03-02 4:20 ` Paul Mundt
2007-03-02 13:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-03-02 13:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-03-02 15:29 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 15:29 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 16:58 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-03-02 16:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 17:09 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:09 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 17:35 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 17:35 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 18:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 18:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 18:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 18:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 18:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 18:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 18:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 18:23 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 19:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 19:40 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 19:40 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 21:12 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 21:12 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 21:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 21:19 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 22:03 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 22:03 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 22:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 22:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 22:51 ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-02 22:51 ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-02 22:54 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 22:54 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 23:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-02 23:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-03 0:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-03 0:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 22:52 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-02 22:52 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-03-02 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-02 23:20 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-02 23:20 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-03 1:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 1:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 1:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-03 1:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-03 3:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 3:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-02 23:16 ` [PATCH] : Optimizes timespec_trunc() Eric Dumazet
2007-03-03 0:33 ` The performance and behaviour of the anti-fragmentation related patches William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 0:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 0:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-03 0:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-03 3:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-03 3:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-03 4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 4:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-03 17:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-03 17:16 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-03-03 17:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-03 17:50 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 20:59 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 20:59 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 16:32 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:19 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 17:28 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 17:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-02 17:59 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-03 4:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-03-02 1:52 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 1:52 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2007-03-02 16:31 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-02 16:31 ` Joel Schopp
2007-03-02 21:37 ` Bill Irwin
2007-03-02 21:37 ` Bill Irwin
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