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From: Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi@daemonizer.de>
To: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
Cc: "linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-wireless" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Gary Zambrano <zambrano@broadcom.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:36:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705272236.42628.maxi@daemonizer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705272145.00796.mb@bu3sch.de>

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On Sunday 27 May 2007, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Sunday 27 May 2007 21:25:17 Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > 2.6.22-rc3:
> >
> > [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 46557 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 5001
> > [  5]  0.0-60.4 sec  58.9 MBytes  8.18 Mbits/sec
> > [  4] local 192.168.1.2 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 51633
> > [  4]  0.0-63.1 sec  7.27 MBytes    967 Kbits/sec
>
> Why do we have two different measurements here? Is one TX and one RX?
> Which one?

Yes, the first is TX (BCM4401 --> e100) and the second is RX. Both are tcp 
connections. I think iperf does display the ip addresses wrong in the second 
connection, but that's another issue.

>
> > koala:~# ping -c10 192.168.1.1
> > PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.243 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.234 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.238 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.235 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.230 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.317 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.232 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.232 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.228 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.238 ms
> >
> > --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
> > 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8997ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.228/0.242/0.317/0.031 ms
> >
> > System responsiveness was the same as with 2.6.21.1.
> >
> > wget got 11.23M/s, again same as 2.6.21.1.
> >
> >
> > 2.6.22-rc2-mm1:
> >
> > [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 42198 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 5001
> > [  5]  0.0-60.1 sec    402 MBytes  56.1 Mbits/sec
> > [  4] local 192.168.1.2 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 48598
> > [  4]  0.0-63.0 sec    177 MBytes  23.6 Mbits/sec
>
> So with -mm (with ssb) you actually get better performace
> then with plain 2.6.22-rc3?
>
> Can you elaborate a bit more about what you get an what you expect
> on which kernel?

When I ran 2.6.21.1 or 2.6.22-rc3 without any debugging tools just in normal 
use I didn't notice any problems. It did work fine as I would expect it.
I think the wget and ping tests here are as they should be.

With 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 I noticed that connections seem to be slower. The ping 
test does confirm this, because here response times are very high. As far as 
I can remember the wget download rate was a bit slower than 2.6.21.1 or 
2.6.22-rc3 till it stalled.
I would expect it to be someting like the other two kernels. The two problems 
I see are the high ping times and the fact that the card stopped working.

I don't know why the iperf results are so different from my personal 
experience. I guess the fact that I get so bad results with 2.6.21.1 and 
2.6.22-rc3 is that iperf does something that causes the system to be 
extremely slow and thus degrading performance. This could be a bug somewhere 
in the b44 driver of 2.6.21.1 and 2.6.22-RC3 that has unintended been fixed 
by the ssb switch, but that's only a roughly guess.

Maxi

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From: Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi-OwNUvPV92VfddJNmlsFzeA@public.gmane.org>
To: Michael Buesch <mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-kernel"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger
	<shemminger-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
	<acme-f8uhVLnGfZaxAyOMLChx1axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Gary Zambrano <zambrano-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 22:36:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705272236.42628.maxi@daemonizer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705272145.00796.mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>

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On Sunday 27 May 2007, Michael Buesch wrote:
> On Sunday 27 May 2007 21:25:17 Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > 2.6.22-rc3:
> >
> > [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 46557 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 5001
> > [  5]  0.0-60.4 sec  58.9 MBytes  8.18 Mbits/sec
> > [  4] local 192.168.1.2 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 51633
> > [  4]  0.0-63.1 sec  7.27 MBytes    967 Kbits/sec
>
> Why do we have two different measurements here? Is one TX and one RX?
> Which one?

Yes, the first is TX (BCM4401 --> e100) and the second is RX. Both are tcp 
connections. I think iperf does display the ip addresses wrong in the second 
connection, but that's another issue.

>
> > koala:~# ping -c10 192.168.1.1
> > PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.243 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.234 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.238 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.235 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.230 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.317 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.232 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.232 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.228 ms
> > 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.238 ms
> >
> > --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
> > 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8997ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.228/0.242/0.317/0.031 ms
> >
> > System responsiveness was the same as with 2.6.21.1.
> >
> > wget got 11.23M/s, again same as 2.6.21.1.
> >
> >
> > 2.6.22-rc2-mm1:
> >
> > [  5] local 192.168.1.2 port 42198 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 5001
> > [  5]  0.0-60.1 sec    402 MBytes  56.1 Mbits/sec
> > [  4] local 192.168.1.2 port 5001 connected with 192.168.1.1 port 48598
> > [  4]  0.0-63.0 sec    177 MBytes  23.6 Mbits/sec
>
> So with -mm (with ssb) you actually get better performace
> then with plain 2.6.22-rc3?
>
> Can you elaborate a bit more about what you get an what you expect
> on which kernel?

When I ran 2.6.21.1 or 2.6.22-rc3 without any debugging tools just in normal 
use I didn't notice any problems. It did work fine as I would expect it.
I think the wget and ping tests here are as they should be.

With 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 I noticed that connections seem to be slower. The ping 
test does confirm this, because here response times are very high. As far as 
I can remember the wget download rate was a bit slower than 2.6.21.1 or 
2.6.22-rc3 till it stalled.
I would expect it to be someting like the other two kernels. The two problems 
I see are the high ping times and the fact that the card stopped working.

I don't know why the iperf results are so different from my personal 
experience. I guess the fact that I get so bad results with 2.6.21.1 and 
2.6.22-rc3 is that iperf does something that causes the system to be 
extremely slow and thus degrading performance. This could be a bug somewhere 
in the b44 driver of 2.6.21.1 and 2.6.22-RC3 that has unintended been fixed 
by the ssb switch, but that's only a roughly guess.

Maxi

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-27 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-26  0:24 b44: regression in 2.6.22 Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-26  3:51 ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-26 17:01 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 19:25   ` b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend) Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 19:25     ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 19:45     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 19:45       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 20:36       ` Maximilian Engelhardt [this message]
2007-05-27 20:36         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 20:46         ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 20:46           ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:46           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:46             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:13     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:13       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:16       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:50         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:50           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 22:15       ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 22:15         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28  0:24         ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28  0:40           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28  0:40             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 10:16             ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 10:16               ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 14:09               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:09                 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 15:14                 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:14                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:32                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 15:32                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 15:43                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:43                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 17:44                     ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 19:23                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 20:55                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 21:45                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-29 18:28                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-29 18:28                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-29 13:58                           ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 13:58                             ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 17:23                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-29 17:23                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-03 16:26                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04  6:39                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04  6:39                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:09                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 16:09                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 16:35                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:35                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:59                                 ` iperf: performance regression (was b44 driver problem?) Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 17:32                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 17:32                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 17:51                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 19:00                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:26                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:26                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:32                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 19:47                                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04 20:02                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 20:52                                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04 20:52                                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 10:49             ` b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend) Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 14:12               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:12                 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:55                 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 14:14                   ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 20:45                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 20:45                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 21:01                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-29 21:01                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-29 21:05                       ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 21:05                         ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 22:39                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29 22:39                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29 21:36                           ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 21:36                             ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-30 10:45                             ` Michael Buesch
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2007-05-28 23:00 Uwe Bugla

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