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From: Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi@daemonizer.de>
To: "Gary Zambrano" <zambrano@broadcom.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Michael Buesch" <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-wireless" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	"Jeff Garzik" <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:23:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705291923.26438.maxi@daemonizer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180447123.17146.4.camel@dhcp-10-12-136-115.broadcom.com>

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On Tuesday 29 May 2007, Gary Zambrano wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 13:55 -0700, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Monday 28 May 2007, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:44 +0200, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > Can you please keep CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS and CONFIG_NOHZ and try
> > > > > the following combinations on the kernel command line:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) highres=off nohz=off (should be the same as your working config)
> > > > > 2) highres=off
> > > > > 3) nohz=off
> > > >
> > > > I tested this with my 2.6.22-rc3 kernel, here are the results:
> > > >
> > > > without any special boot parameters: problem does appear
> > > > highres=off nohz=off: problem does not appear
> > > > highres=off: problem does not appear
> > > > nohz=off: problem does appear
> > >
> > > Is there any other strange behavior of the high res enabled kernel than
> > > the b44 problem ?
> >
> > I didn't notice anything.
> >
> > > > I additionally built my 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 kernel without High Resolution
> > > > Timer, but the high ping problem is still there.
> > >
> > > Hmm, that's mysterious. Wild guess is that highres exposes the hidden
> > > "feature" in a different way than rc2-mm1 does.
> >
> > I think the bug in 2.6.21/22-rc3 is a different one that the one in
> > 2.6.22-rc2-mm1, but that's also only a wild guess :)
> >
> > I'll explain this a bit:
> > In 2.6.21/22-rc3 is the same b44 driver that has been in the stock
> > kernels for some time. With this driver and High Resolution Timer turned
> > on I get problems using iperf. The problems are that the systems becomes
> > really slow and unresponsive.  Michael Buesch thought this could be an
> > IRQ storm which sounds logical to me. This bug did never happen to me
> > before I startet the iperf test.
>
> Can you please check to see if you notice anything out of the ordinary
> using netperf in place of iperf in your high res timer on/off testbed?

ok, here are the results, I also had a look at the cpu kernel usage.
'good' means that the kernel responsiveness during the test was as I would 
expect it and I didn't notice any problems.

highres enabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf: not really messureable (bad, problem described above)

highres disabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf:  5%sy 30%hi 15%si (good)


for test tests I did run the following commands:
netperf -l 60 192.168.1.1
iperf -c 192.168.1.1 -r -t 60

I also tried to run iperf without any additional arguments (iperf -c 
192.168.1.1) on the problematic kernel but the result is the same as the 
command I wrote above.

Maxi

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From: Maximilian Engelhardt <maxi-OwNUvPV92VfddJNmlsFzeA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Gary Zambrano" <zambrano-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michael Buesch" <mb-fseUSCV1ubazQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-wireless"
	<linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Stephen Hemminger"
	<shemminger-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo"
	<acme-f8uhVLnGfZaxAyOMLChx1axOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jeff Garzik" <jgarzik-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Andrew Morton"
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:23:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705291923.26438.maxi@daemonizer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1180447123.17146.4.camel-opBMJL+S1+nCw/J+WP9nZ0NK2P1VvzQgpWgKQ6/u3Fg@public.gmane.org>

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On Tuesday 29 May 2007, Gary Zambrano wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 13:55 -0700, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > On Monday 28 May 2007, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 19:44 +0200, Maximilian Engelhardt wrote:
> > > > > Can you please keep CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS and CONFIG_NOHZ and try
> > > > > the following combinations on the kernel command line:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) highres=off nohz=off (should be the same as your working config)
> > > > > 2) highres=off
> > > > > 3) nohz=off
> > > >
> > > > I tested this with my 2.6.22-rc3 kernel, here are the results:
> > > >
> > > > without any special boot parameters: problem does appear
> > > > highres=off nohz=off: problem does not appear
> > > > highres=off: problem does not appear
> > > > nohz=off: problem does appear
> > >
> > > Is there any other strange behavior of the high res enabled kernel than
> > > the b44 problem ?
> >
> > I didn't notice anything.
> >
> > > > I additionally built my 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 kernel without High Resolution
> > > > Timer, but the high ping problem is still there.
> > >
> > > Hmm, that's mysterious. Wild guess is that highres exposes the hidden
> > > "feature" in a different way than rc2-mm1 does.
> >
> > I think the bug in 2.6.21/22-rc3 is a different one that the one in
> > 2.6.22-rc2-mm1, but that's also only a wild guess :)
> >
> > I'll explain this a bit:
> > In 2.6.21/22-rc3 is the same b44 driver that has been in the stock
> > kernels for some time. With this driver and High Resolution Timer turned
> > on I get problems using iperf. The problems are that the systems becomes
> > really slow and unresponsive.  Michael Buesch thought this could be an
> > IRQ storm which sounds logical to me. This bug did never happen to me
> > before I startet the iperf test.
>
> Can you please check to see if you notice anything out of the ordinary
> using netperf in place of iperf in your high res timer on/off testbed?

ok, here are the results, I also had a look at the cpu kernel usage.
'good' means that the kernel responsiveness during the test was as I would 
expect it and I didn't notice any problems.

highres enabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf: not really messureable (bad, problem described above)

highres disabled:

netperf: 80%sy 15%si (good)
iperf:  5%sy 30%hi 15%si (good)


for test tests I did run the following commands:
netperf -l 60 192.168.1.1
iperf -c 192.168.1.1 -r -t 60

I also tried to run iperf without any additional arguments (iperf -c 
192.168.1.1) on the problematic kernel but the result is the same as the 
command I wrote above.

Maxi

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-26  0:24 b44: regression in 2.6.22 Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-26  3:51 ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-26 17:01 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 19:25   ` b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend) Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 19:25     ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 19:45     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 19:45       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 20:36       ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 20:36         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 20:46         ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 20:46           ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:46           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:46             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:13     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:13       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:16       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-27 21:50         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 21:50           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 22:15       ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-27 22:15         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28  0:24         ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28  0:40           ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28  0:40             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 10:16             ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 10:16               ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 14:09               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:09                 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 15:14                 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:14                   ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:32                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 15:32                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 15:43                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 15:43                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 17:44                     ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 19:23                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-28 20:55                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 21:45                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-29 18:28                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-29 18:28                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-29 13:58                           ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 13:58                             ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 17:23                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt [this message]
2007-05-29 17:23                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-03 16:26                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04  6:39                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04  6:39                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:09                             ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 16:09                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 16:35                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:35                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 16:59                                 ` iperf: performance regression (was b44 driver problem?) Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 17:32                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 17:32                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 17:51                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 19:00                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:26                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:26                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-04 19:32                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 19:47                                         ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04 20:02                                           ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-06-04 20:52                                             ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-06-04 20:52                                               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 10:49             ` b44: regression in 2.6.22 (resend) Michael Buesch
2007-05-28 14:12               ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:12                 ` Maximilian Engelhardt
2007-05-28 14:55                 ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 14:14                   ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 20:45                     ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 20:45                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-05-29 21:01                       ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-29 21:01                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-05-29 21:05                       ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 21:05                         ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 22:39                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29 22:39                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29 21:36                           ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-29 21:36                             ` Gary Zambrano
2007-05-30 10:45                             ` Michael Buesch
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2007-05-28 23:00 Uwe Bugla

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