From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
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Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:54:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423125445.GN12774@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221157220.2779-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Apr 22 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> [ Ingo added to cc, since this is x86-specific ]
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic_32.c
> > @@ -1357,6 +1357,10 @@ void __init smp_intr_init(void)
> >
> > /* IPI for generic function call */
> > set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_VECTOR, call_function_interrupt);
> > +
> > + /* IPI for single call function */
> > + set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_SINGLE_VECTOR,
> > + call_function_single_interrupt);
>
> Ok, one more comment..
>
> Why bother with separate vectors for this?
>
> Why not just make the single vector do
>
> void smp_call_function_interrupt(void)
> {
> ack_APIC_irq();
> irq_enter();
> generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt();
> generic_smp_call_function_interrupt();
> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_32
> __get_cpu_var(irq_stat).irq_call_count++;
> #else
> add_pda(irq_call_count, 1);
> #endif
> irq_exit();
> }
>
> since they are both doing the exact same thing anyway?
>
> Do we really require us to be able to handle the "single" case _while_ a
> "multiple" case is busy? Aren't we running all of these things with
> interrupts disabled anyway, so that it cannot happen?
>
> Or is it just a performance optimization? Do we expect to really have so
> many of the multiple interrupts that it's expensive to walk the list just
> because we also had a single interrupt to another CPU? That sounds a bit
> unlikely, but if true, very interesting..
>
> Inquiring minds want to know..
Regarding that last comment... The reason why I'm doing this work is
because I want to use smp_call_function_single() to redirect IO
completions. So there WILL be lots of
smp_call_function_single_interrupt() interrupts, they will be a lot more
prevalent than smp_call_function() interrupts. I don't have any numbers
on this since I haven't tried collapsing them all, but I'd be surprised
if it wasn't noticable.
That said, some archs do use a single IPI for multiple actions and just
keep a bitmask of what to do in that IPI. So it would still be possible
to use a single hardware IPI to do various things, without resorting to
calling into the interrupt handler for each of them. The _single()
interrupt handler is a cheap check though, an smp memory barrier and a
list_empty() check is enough (like it currently does).
--
Jens Axboe
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
npiggin@suse.de, peterz@infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:54:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080423125445.GN12774@kernel.dk> (raw)
Message-ID: <20080423125446.9AoUehpV8sCJfPJ2KAIhjVDGQ4-6iHq1c3v_zQ6EzKU@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221157220.2779@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, Apr 22 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> [ Ingo added to cc, since this is x86-specific ]
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/apic_32.c
> > @@ -1357,6 +1357,10 @@ void __init smp_intr_init(void)
> >
> > /* IPI for generic function call */
> > set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_VECTOR, call_function_interrupt);
> > +
> > + /* IPI for single call function */
> > + set_intr_gate(CALL_FUNCTION_SINGLE_VECTOR,
> > + call_function_single_interrupt);
>
> Ok, one more comment..
>
> Why bother with separate vectors for this?
>
> Why not just make the single vector do
>
> void smp_call_function_interrupt(void)
> {
> ack_APIC_irq();
> irq_enter();
> generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt();
> generic_smp_call_function_interrupt();
> #ifdef CONFIG_X86_32
> __get_cpu_var(irq_stat).irq_call_count++;
> #else
> add_pda(irq_call_count, 1);
> #endif
> irq_exit();
> }
>
> since they are both doing the exact same thing anyway?
>
> Do we really require us to be able to handle the "single" case _while_ a
> "multiple" case is busy? Aren't we running all of these things with
> interrupts disabled anyway, so that it cannot happen?
>
> Or is it just a performance optimization? Do we expect to really have so
> many of the multiple interrupts that it's expensive to walk the list just
> because we also had a single interrupt to another CPU? That sounds a bit
> unlikely, but if true, very interesting..
>
> Inquiring minds want to know..
Regarding that last comment... The reason why I'm doing this work is
because I want to use smp_call_function_single() to redirect IO
completions. So there WILL be lots of
smp_call_function_single_interrupt() interrupts, they will be a lot more
prevalent than smp_call_function() interrupts. I don't have any numbers
on this since I haven't tried collapsing them all, but I'd be surprised
if it wasn't noticable.
That said, some archs do use a single IPI for multiple actions and just
keep a bitmask of what to do in that IPI. So it would still be possible
to use a single hardware IPI to do various things, without resorting to
calling into the interrupt handler for each of them. The _single()
interrupt handler is a cheap check though, an smp memory barrier and a
list_empty() check is enough (like it currently does).
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-23 12:54 UTC|newest]
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2008-04-22 18:50 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() #2 Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208890227-24808-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 1/11] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208890227-24808-2-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 20:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22 20:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 6:07 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 6:07 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080423060725.GT12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 6:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 6:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 7:49 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 7:49 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080423074933.GB12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-23 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-24 22:01 ` Russell King
2008-04-24 22:01 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20080424220157.GA26179-f404yB8NqCZvn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-25 7:18 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 7:18 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080425071823.GF12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-26 6:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-26 6:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <4812CB99.1070600-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-28 7:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2008-04-28 7:38 ` Jes Sorensen
2008-04-26 6:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 6:11 ` Andrew Morton
2008-04-26 6:11 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20080425231100.b93a1601.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-26 14:13 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-26 14:13 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20080427005816.GB21687-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-27 10:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:36 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:30 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:30 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1209219236.3113.6.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-28 14:25 ` David Howells
2008-04-28 14:25 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <18470.1209392727-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-28 14:43 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-28 14:43 ` James Bottomley
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221157220.2779-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20080422191213.GA6370-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:26 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20080422192601.GB12588-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-22 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221244350.2779-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20080423011153.GB17572-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-23 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0804221817050.2779-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 1:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 1:36 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-23 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:54 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2008-04-23 12:54 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208890227-24808-3-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-26 6:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-26 6:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <4812CF5B.4080902-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-27 10:23 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-27 10:23 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080427102335.GS12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-27 15:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-27 15:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 3/11] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 4/11] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 5/11] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 6/11] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 7/11] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 8/11] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 23:18 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-04-23 7:18 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 9/11] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 10/11] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208890227-24808-11-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-25 8:56 ` Paul Mundt
2008-04-25 8:56 ` Paul Mundt
[not found] ` <20080425085637.GA30569-M7jkjyW5wf5g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-25 9:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-25 9:16 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` [PATCH 11/11] s390: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 18:50 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208890227-24808-12-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 7:58 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 7:58 ` Heiko Carstens
[not found] ` <20080423075831.GB15850-Pmgahw53EmNLmI7Nx2oIsGnsbthNF6/HVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 8:11 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 8:11 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080423081147.GC12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 11:21 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:21 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080423112124.GJ12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 11:47 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-04-23 11:47 ` Heiko Carstens
[not found] ` <20080423114744.GA29422-Pmgahw53EmNLmI7Nx2oIsGnsbthNF6/HVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-23 11:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 11:54 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-23 12:42 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-23 12:42 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-04-23 15:56 ` Rusty Russell
2008-04-23 15:56 ` Rusty Russell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-22 7:57 [PATCH 0/11] Generic smp_call_function() and friends Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208851058-8500-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 7:57 ` [PATCH 2/11] x86: convert to generic helpers for IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 7:57 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <1208851058-8500-3-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 8:38 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-22 8:38 ` Sam Ravnborg
[not found] ` <20080422083810.GA23540-QabhHTsIXMSnlFQ6Q1D1Y0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:43 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080422084315.GT12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 11:15 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20080422084738.GB2388-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 8:48 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22 8:48 ` Jacek Luczak
[not found] ` <480DA670.4060707-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 8:56 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:56 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20080422085629.GV12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22 9:04 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22 9:04 ` Jacek Luczak
2008-04-22 8:52 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-22 8:52 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-26 8:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-26 8:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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