From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
hch@infradead.org, tytso@mit.edu, pavel@suse.cz,
t-sato@yk.jp.nec.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
axboe@kernel.dk, mtk.manpages@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:59:50 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080709065950.GR11558@disturbed> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080708234120.5072111f@infradead.org>
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 11:41:20PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:22:56 +0200
> Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:13:21AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > This would mean that freeze and thaw will have to be done on the
> > > > same file descriptor, but this isn't unreasonable to expect, is
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > It is certainly not the current use case, where you run one command
> > > to freeze the filesystem and another one to unfreeze it.
> >
> > So instead of
> >
> > freeze_fs mountpoint
> > backup-command
> > unfreeze_fs mountpoint
> >
> > the user would have do to
> >
> > run_freezed mountpoint backup-command
> >
> > I find the second one nicer, regardless of any reliability issues.
>
> nah he needs to do
>
> make_snapshot ; backup-command ; unref_snapshot.
>
> freezing isn't the right solution for the backup problem ;)
You're forgetting that to take a snapshot you generally need to
freeze the filesystem. ;) i.e:
freeze; make_snapshot; unfreeze
backup-command
unref_snapshot
Yes, dm_snapshot does the freeze/snapshot/unfreeze for you, but the
point is there is a freeze in the example you gave.
The argument against Miklos' version is that there may be multiple
commands to execute while the fs is frozen.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-09 6:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-30 12:24 [PATCH 3/3] Add timeout feature Takashi Sato
2008-06-30 12:24 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-01 8:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-01 10:52 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-01 10:52 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 12:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 12:11 ` [dm-devel] " Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 12:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 12:47 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 12:47 ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2008-07-03 22:11 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 22:11 ` [dm-devel] " Dave Chinner
2008-07-03 22:11 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-04 12:08 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-04 12:08 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-03 14:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-07-07 11:07 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:10 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 23:10 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-08 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 0:52 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 4:21 ` Brad Boyer
2008-07-09 6:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-07-09 6:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:48 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 6:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 7:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 7:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 20:48 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 11:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 11:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 12:24 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 12:24 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 12:59 ` Olaf Frączyk
2008-07-09 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 12:24 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 13:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 13:58 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 14:13 ` jim owens
2008-07-13 12:06 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-13 17:15 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 6:36 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-14 13:17 ` jim owens
2008-07-14 13:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-14 13:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-14 14:04 ` jim owens
2008-07-09 11:49 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 13:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-09 6:59 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2008-07-09 7:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 7:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 7:33 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 8:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 8:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-07-09 11:15 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 11:15 ` Dave Chinner
2008-07-09 1:09 ` Theodore Tso
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-07-09 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-08 11:53 Takashi Sato
2008-09-08 11:53 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-08 17:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-25 21:06 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-09-26 8:52 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-26 8:52 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-26 10:58 ` Ric Wheeler
2008-09-29 11:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-29 11:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-29 11:11 ` Takashi Sato
2008-09-26 12:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-26 12:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-09-29 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-29 14:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-09-29 14:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-09-29 14:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-09-29 14:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2008-09-29 22:08 ` jim owens
2008-10-05 10:00 ` Pavel Machek
2008-10-09 10:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-10-09 10:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-10-09 10:12 ` Takashi Sato
2008-10-09 10:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-09 10:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-18 12:28 Takashi Sato
2008-08-18 12:28 ` Takashi Sato
2008-08-21 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-21 20:20 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-22 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-22 18:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-08-24 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-08-29 9:39 ` Takashi Sato
2008-08-29 9:39 ` Takashi Sato
2008-08-29 9:39 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-22 9:36 Takashi Sato
2008-07-22 9:36 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-22 9:36 ` Takashi Sato
2008-07-22 9:36 Takashi Sato
2008-06-24 7:00 Takashi Sato
2008-06-24 7:00 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-24 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-27 11:33 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-27 11:33 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-27 11:33 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-27 18:57 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-29 23:13 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-29 23:13 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-29 23:13 ` Takashi Sato
2008-06-30 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-30 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-30 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
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