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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Andreas Färber" <andreas.faerber@web.de>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:20:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080904102057.GG11424@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1AB1D98-CDAD-49CE-A1F9-6AD4AD3073B0@web.de>

On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 12:06:22PM +0200, Andreas F?rber wrote:
> 
> Am 04.09.2008 um 11:42 schrieb Daniel P. Berrange:
> 
> >On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 10:00:31PM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> >>I think we need to have some discussion about what the long term
> >>front-end should be for QEMU.  Otherwise, we're going to end up  
> >>with a
> >>proliferation of front-ends.  Personally, I'd rather move from SDL to
> >>GTK so that we can build a proper user interface.
> >
> >As long as that's optional, because in a server deployment scenario  
> >like
> >oVirt I don't want to pull in the GTK stack just to run QEMU vms. We  
> >currently
> >have a minimal OS image target of < 64 MB in size. Adding GTK and  
> >its deps
> >will totally blow that limit.
> 
> All graphical frontends have been optional (--disable-sdl,  
> undocumented --disable-gfx-check).

It gets a little more complicated when you have to ship this still in 
binary packages though. Users typically expect us to enable all the
compile time options which are a available for a particular OS distro,
so they'd expect GTK enabled by default if we had that. At the same 
time many people won't want QEMU to have a dep on GTK. I don't want
to end up building multiple binary packages of QEMU, with & without
the frontend. It might warrant having a libqemu, and separate graphical
frontends, one GTK, one VNC,...  That of course raises a question if
ABI for libqemu - it could be put in a private lib directory just for
the official frontends to use, and declared 'not for public use'.

Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-04 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-02 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-04  3:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04  7:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-04  9:42   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-04 10:06     ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-04 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-09-05 16:42         ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-07  7:51         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07  3:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 16:31       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08  0:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 12:02     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 12:11       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-06 23:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-07 14:22           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 14:36             ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 14:42               ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:03                 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:12                   ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:35                     ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:41                       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:57                         ` Paul Brook
2008-09-08  0:08                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08  0:21                           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-08  1:18               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 10:38                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:21                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 16:44       ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 16:55         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 17:13           ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07  3:21             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 10:48               ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:16               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:51                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:41               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:48                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 14:56                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:08                     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:35                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:39                         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 16:23                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 16:47                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 19:15                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 19:43                             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:47                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 16:05                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 17:08                           ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:21                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 21:06                               ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:32                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:48                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:57                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 20:11                               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 23:18                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-09  0:10                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09  2:45                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09  4:17                               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07  7:48           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 11:57             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-07 13:12               ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-08 10:30                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 10:35                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 10:53                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 11:00                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 12:38                         ` François Revol
2008-09-08 13:05                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:08                           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 13:44                             ` François Revol
2008-09-05 18:11         ` malc
2008-09-04 10:14   ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07  3:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:21   ` Andreas Färber

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