From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:21:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080908132157.GC4947@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C500A4.9090505@eu.citrix.com>
Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > A good quality guest _expects_ that reading its video RAM will be
> > slow, and only writes to its video RAM, and possible by preparing images
> > off-screen then wide block transfers. :-)
>
> That is a really good point.
> Usually the safe way to handle the video ram VS main memory problem is
> to write to main memory then copy the whole buffer to video ram every so
> often.
> But in our case the guest thinks that he is writing to video ram
> already, so in theory he is already using all precautions needed to
> handle the latency problem.
> It is actually probable that the guest is handling another buffer in his
> own memory and syncing that one with what he thinks to be the video ram.
Yes, especially with any guest in the last 15 years :-), so I would
imagine that mapping to video RAM as directly as you can would give
the best results (e.g. using an OpenGL memory-mapped texture or X11
MIT-SHM image if they're possible to protect safely). That's also
saving power, by the way, even if your machine is plenty fast enough
that extra full-screen image copies aren't humanly visible.
That said, numbers talk better than hand-waving.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-08 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-02 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-04 3:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 7:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-04 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-04 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 16:42 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-07 7:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 3:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 16:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 0:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 12:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 12:11 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-06 23:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-07 14:22 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 14:36 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 14:42 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:03 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:35 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:41 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-08 0:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 0:21 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-08 1:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 10:38 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:21 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2008-09-05 16:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 16:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 17:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 10:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 14:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 16:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 19:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 19:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 16:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 17:08 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 21:06 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 23:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-09 0:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09 2:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 4:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-07 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-08 10:30 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 10:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 10:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 11:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 12:38 ` François Revol
2008-09-08 13:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 13:44 ` François Revol
2008-09-05 18:11 ` malc
2008-09-04 10:14 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:21 ` Andreas Färber
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