From: "François Revol" <revol@free.fr>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:38:56 +0200 CEST [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6212707131-BeMail@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080908110038.GG2315@redhat.com>
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:53:57AM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:30:09AM +0100, Stefano Stabellini
> > > wrote:
> > >> I completely agree with Avi: Opengl has been around since 1992,
> > > > and now
> > >> you tell me that it is better not to use it because it breaks
> > > > Compiz?!
> > >> To say the least it would be a bad long term engineering
> > > > decision.
> > >
> > > It would be a bad decision *if* OpenGL were the only technical
> > > solution
> > > to the problem. There are a variety of possible solutions with
> > > various
> > > pluses & minuses. If it is possible to do an implementation which
> > > uses
> > > hardware acceleration for scaling to get the same level of
> > > performance
> > > as the OpenGL proposal, it is good sense to evaluate it. Blindly
> > > going
> > > for OpenGL when it has known problems without evaluating
> > > alternatives
> > > would be the bad engineering decision.
> >
> >
> > You are right that we have a variety of possible solution each one
> > with
> > its own pros and cons.
> > I think removing SDL(+Opengl) for Gtk and Cairo is not a good idea
> > *but*
> > we could add another Gtk based fronted.
>
> Sorry, I wasn't being entirely clear in my suggestion. Cairo itself
> is not
> tied to any toolkit - its dependancy is on libX11 / the RENDER
> extension.
> So, use of Cairo is rather tangential to question of GTK vs SDL - you
> can
> use Cairo with either of them. That said, it may turn out that SDL
> does
> not expose enough of its X11 internals to allow an efficient use of
> Cairo.
> It would need some experimentation to determine for sure, because the
> docs
> aren't entirely clear on this question.
It would definitely make things much less portable...
Cairo itself is quite a beast to port I heard... (not everyone uses
X11...)
François.
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-02 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-04 3:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 7:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-04 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-04 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 16:42 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-07 7:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 3:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 16:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 0:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 12:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 12:11 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-06 23:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-07 14:22 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 14:36 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 14:42 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:03 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:35 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:41 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-08 0:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 0:21 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-08 1:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 10:38 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 16:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 16:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 17:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 10:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 14:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 16:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 19:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 19:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 16:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 17:08 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 21:06 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 23:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-09 0:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09 2:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 4:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-07 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-08 10:30 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 10:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 10:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 11:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 12:38 ` François Revol [this message]
2008-09-08 13:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 13:44 ` François Revol
2008-09-05 18:11 ` malc
2008-09-04 10:14 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:21 ` Andreas Färber
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