From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 00:18:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080908231843.GA29606@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080908154700.GT2315@redhat.com>
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 04:47:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 04:08:01PM +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> > Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > Beside that I still think it would be a good idea to separate qemu and
> > > the gui into two separate processes, so you can close the GUI window and
> > > keep the VM running. It also solves the dependency issue for distros as
> > > the gtk frontend with all the dependencies can just go into a separate
> > > sub-package.
> >
> > Extending VNC with a "shared memory" extension, similar to Xlib's
> > MIT-SHM extension, and implementing it in QEMU and Gtk-VNC would be a
> > nice way to do this.
>
> Funny you should mention that. Anthony had code todo exactly that against
> for both QEMU and GTK-VNC a while back. We had it in the GTK-VNC for a
> short while but removed it due to some race conditions in its impl, and
> it interracted badly with our OpenGL impl. We could easily revisit this
> idea if it were thought to be important / useful.
Just thought I'd mention one other thing - it is not actually clearcut / or
guarenteed that XShm + VNC would improve performance in all circumstances.
This is because X pixmaps created via XShm apparently cannot live in video
memory, and thus it is not so easy to get full performance advantage of
hardware acceleration - this could impact scaling for example. The need to
perform XSync operations when updating the pixmaps may also negate the
benefit of avoiding the socket I/O. It would all depend on the size of the
updates vs frequency of them. Still defintely worth a try to see what kind
of difference Shm makes in a real world scenario with QEMU.
Daniel
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-02 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-04 3:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 7:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-04 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-04 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 16:42 ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-07 7:51 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 3:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 16:31 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 0:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 12:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 12:11 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-06 23:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-07 14:22 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 14:36 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 14:42 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:03 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:12 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:35 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:41 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-08 0:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 0:21 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-08 1:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 10:38 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 16:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 16:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 17:13 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 10:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 14:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:35 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 16:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 19:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 19:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 16:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 17:08 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:21 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 21:06 ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 23:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2008-09-09 0:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09 2:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09 4:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 7:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-07 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-08 10:30 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 10:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 10:53 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 11:00 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 12:38 ` François Revol
2008-09-08 13:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 13:44 ` François Revol
2008-09-05 18:11 ` malc
2008-09-04 10:14 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07 3:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:21 ` Andreas Färber
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