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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64: Implement personality ADDR_LIMIT_32BIT
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:56:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081006095628.GE3180@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081006091709.GB20852@localhost.localdomain>

> > And personality() is not thread local/safe, so it's not a particularly
> > good interface to use later.
> 
> qemu can call personality() before any threads will be created.

It still makes it unsuitable for a lot of other applications.
e.g. a JVM using 32bit pointers couldn't use it because it would
affect native C threads running in the same process.

> 
> > Per system call switches are preferable
> > and more flexible.
> 
> Per syscall switches are cool, but I don't see any advantage from it for 
> qemu.

Linux interfaces are not supposed to be "interfaces for qemu" but generally
applicable interfaces.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64: Implement personality ADDR_LIMIT_32BIT
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:56:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081006095628.GE3180@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081006091709.GB20852@localhost.localdomain>

> > And personality() is not thread local/safe, so it's not a particularly
> > good interface to use later.
> 
> qemu can call personality() before any threads will be created.

It still makes it unsuitable for a lot of other applications.
e.g. a JVM using 32bit pointers couldn't use it because it would
affect native C threads running in the same process.

> 
> > Per system call switches are preferable
> > and more flexible.
> 
> Per syscall switches are cool, but I don't see any advantage from it for 
> qemu.

Linux interfaces are not supposed to be "interfaces for qemu" but generally
applicable interfaces.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-06  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-03  7:04 [PATCH] x86_64: Implement personality ADDR_LIMIT_32BIT Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-03  7:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-03  8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-03  8:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-03  9:25   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-03 12:44     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 12:44       ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-10-03 12:58       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06  6:13     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06  6:13       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06  8:17       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06  8:42         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06  8:42           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06  9:17           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06  9:56             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-10-06  9:56               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06 10:12               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06 13:26                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06 13:26                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06 14:37                   ` [PATCH, RFC] shmat: introduce flag SHM_MAP_HINT Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06 14:37                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-06 19:29                     ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-06 19:29                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07  6:57                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07  6:57                       ` [PATCH, RFC, v2] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07  6:57                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07  8:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07  8:20                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 10:09                           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07 11:26                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:26                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:23                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07 14:38                               ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-07 14:38                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2008-10-07 15:10                                 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 15:10                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:08                     ` [PATCH, RFC] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-07 11:08                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-07 11:21                       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:21                         ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:21                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-07 11:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-10-07 11:30                           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07 11:50                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:50                               ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 11:24                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-07 12:31                         ` Alan Cox
2008-10-07 12:31                           ` Alan Cox
2008-10-07 13:14                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-07 13:14                             ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-03  9:33   ` [PATCH] x86_64: Implement personality ADDR_LIMIT_32BIT Kirill A. Shutemov
2008-10-03  9:33     ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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