From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:16:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090126171618.GA32091@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090125230130.bcdab2e5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > > Yet another kernel thread for each CPU. All because of some dung
> > > way down in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.c.
> > >
> > > Is there no other way?
> >
> > Perhaps, but this works. Trying to be clever got me into this mess in
> > the first place.
> >
> > We could stop using workqueues and change work_on_cpu to create a
> > thread every time, which would give it a new failure mode so I don't
> > know that everyone could use it any more. Or we could keep a single
> > thread around to do all the cpus, and duplicate much of the workqueue
> > code.
> >
> > None of these options are appealing...
>
> Can we try harder please? 10 screenfuls of kernel threads in the ps
> output is just irritating.
>
> How about banning the use of work_on_cpu() from schedule_work() handlers
> and then fixing that driver somehow?
Yes, but that's fundamentally fragile: anyone who happens to stick the
wrong thing into keventd (and it's dead easy because schedule_work() is
easy to use) will lock up work_on_cpu() users.
work_on_cpu() is an important (and lowlevel enough) facility to be
isolated from casual interaction like that.
> What _is_ the bug anyway? The only description we were given was
>
> Impact: remove potential clashes with generic kevent workqueue
>
> Annoyingly, some places we want to use work_on_cpu are already in
> workqueues. As per Ingo's suggestion, we create a different
> workqueue for work_on_cpu.
>
> which didn't bother telling anyone squat.
>
> When was this bug added? Was it added into that driver or was it due to
> infrastructural changes?
This fixes lockups during bootup caused by the cpumask changes/cleanups
which changed set_cpus_allowed()+on-kernel-stack-cpumask_t to
work_on_cpu().
Which was fine except it didnt take into account the interaction with the
kevents workqueue and the very wide cross section for worklet dependencies
that this brings with itself. work_on_cpu() was rarely used before so this
didnt show up.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-26 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26 7:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-01-26 18:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 0:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27 0:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:15 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 7:05 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29 1:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29 2:12 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 6:03 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 6:30 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03 4:06 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 2:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 3:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44 ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10 8:54 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10 9:35 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11 0:32 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26 ` Ingo Molnar
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