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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: travis@sgi.com, mingo@redhat.com, davej@redhat.com,
	cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:35:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090210013548.cbf58cbe.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902101924.08656.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:24:07 +1030 Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:

> On Thursday 05 February 2009 02:06:36 Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:11:35 +1030 Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 13:31:11 Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:14:31 +1030 Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > I think you're right though: smp_call_function_single (or neat wrappers)
> > > > > where possible, work_on_cpu which can fail for the others, and we'll just
> > > > > have to plumb in the error returns.
> > > > 
> > > > I bet a lot of those can use plain old schedule_work_on().
> > > 
> > > Which is where work_on_cpu started: a little wrapper around schedule_work_on.
> > > 
> > > We're going in circles, no?
> > 
> > No, we've made some progress.  We have a better understanding of what
> > the restrictions, shortcomings and traps are in this stuff.  We've
> > learned (surprise!) that a one-size-fits-all big hammer wasn't such a
> > great idea.
> > 
> > Proposed schedule_work_on() rule: either the flush_work() caller or the
> > callback should not hold any explicit or implicit sleeping locks.
> 
> But as you found out looking through these, it's really hard to tell.  I can
> guess, but that's a little fraught...

yup.

> How about we make work_on_cpu spawn a temp thread; if you care, use
> something cleverer?  Spawning a thread just isn't that slow.

That's what
work_on_cpu-rewrite-it-to-create-a-kernel-thread-on-demand.patch does?

> Meanwhile, I'll prepare patches to convert all the non-controversial cases
> (ie. smp_call_function-style ones).

arch-x86-kernel-acpi-cstatec-avoid-using-work_on_cpu.patch
arch-x86-kernel-cpu-cpufreq-acpi-cpufreqc-avoid-using-work_on_cpu.patch
arch-x86-kernel-cpu-mcheck-mce_amd_64c-avoid-using-work_on_cpu.patch

convert three work_on_cpu() callers.  The drivers/pci/pci-driver.c one
is a bit problematic.

I guess as long as we don't find a high frequency set_cpus_allowed()
callsite which can't be converted to smp_call_function_single() we'll
be OK.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-10  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24  8:15   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27  0:42                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01                         ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27  0:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:15                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:05         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27  7:25           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32                 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29  1:43                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29  2:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30  6:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30  6:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03  4:06                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04  2:44                                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04  3:01                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44                                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10  8:54                                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10  9:35                                           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-02-11  0:32                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11     ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26       ` Ingo Molnar

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