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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, travis@sgi.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, davej@redhat.com, cpufreq@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:50:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090126215049.GA3493@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090126133551.fab5e27a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On 01/26, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:27:27 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > > So if it's generic it ought to be implemented in a generic way - not a 
> > > > "dont use from any codepath that has a lock held that might 
> > > > occasionally also be held in a keventd worklet". (which is a totally 
> > > > unmaintainable proposition and which would just cause repeat bugs 
> > > > again and again.)
> > > 
> > > That's different.  The core fault here lies in the keventd workqueue 
> > > handling code.  If we're flushing work A then we shouldn't go and block 
> > > behind unrelated work B.
> > 
> > the blocking is inherent in the concept of "a queue of worklets handled by 
> > a single thread".
> > 
> > If a worklet is blocked then all other work performed by that thread is 
> > blocked as well. So by waiting on a piece of work in the queue, we wait 
> > for all prior work queued up there as well.
> > 
> > The only way to decouple that and to make them independent (and hence 
> > independently flushable) is to create more parallel flows of execution: 
> > i.e. by creating another thread (another workqueue).
> > 
> 
> Nope.  As I said, the caller of flush_work() can detach the work item
> and run it directly.

I am totally confused, just can't understand this thread...

I guess, we can't detach and execute because we can run on the
different CPU.

But "[PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu."
removes get_online_cpus/put_online_cpus, this means the work can run on
the wrong CPU anyway. Or work_on_cpu() can hang forever if CPU has already
gone away before queue_work_on().

Confused.

Oleg.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-26 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 19:11 [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] work_on_cpu: dont try to get_online_cpus() in work_on_cpu Mike Travis
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] work_on_cpu: Use our own workqueue Mike Travis
2009-01-24  8:15   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]     ` <200901261711.43943.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
2009-01-26  7:01       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 17:16         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 18:35           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 20:20             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 20:43               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-26 21:00               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:27                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:35                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 21:45                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:01                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:16                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:20                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:59                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:42                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 23:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27  0:42                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-26 22:31                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:15                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:24                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 22:37                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-26 22:42                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 21:50                     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-01-26 22:17                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-26 23:01                         ` Mike Travis
2009-01-27  0:09                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:15                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27 17:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27  7:05         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-27  7:25           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-27 15:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-27 16:51               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-28 13:02             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 17:19               ` Mike Travis
2009-01-28 17:32                 ` Mike Travis
2009-01-29 10:39                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-28 19:44               ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-29  1:43                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-29  2:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30  6:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30  6:30                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 13:49                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-30 17:08                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-30 21:59                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-30 22:17                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-02 12:35                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-03  4:06                               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04  2:44                                 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04  3:01                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 10:41                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-04 15:36                                       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:35                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 21:48                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-04 21:54                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-04 23:45                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-05 12:19                                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-05 17:44                                             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2009-02-10  8:54                                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-10  9:35                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-11  0:32                                             ` Rusty Russell
2009-01-16 19:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: use work_on_cpu in acpi-cpufreq.c for drv_read and drv_write Mike Travis
2009-01-16 23:38 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpu freq: fix problems with work_on_cpu usage in acpi-cpufreq [PULL request] Mike Travis
2009-01-17 22:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-19 17:11     ` Mike Travis
2009-01-19 17:26       ` Ingo Molnar

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