From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:28:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100725152855.GA30894@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C4C2D3C.40306@redhat.com>
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 02:25:32PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote:
>
> On 07/25/2010 12:34 PM, Arno Wagner wrote:
> > This would be a reason to stay away from XTS, something may have
> > been subtly messed up.
> >
> > As a side note, the XTS spec seems to be behind a IEEE paywall, which
> > would be another reason not to use it, public standards need to be
> > accessible for free.
>
> You should then suggest not use hardisks and storage technologies too
> because most of standards are not accesible for free:-)
> </joke>
The drafts are free ;-)
> Seriously, XTS-AES is FIPS140-2 approved and I see no problem to use it.
Well, I basically do not see the algorithm. Maybe searching for 15
Minutes was not enough, but when something is hidden in Crypto,
I always become very suspicuous.
> Also read
> http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/BCM/documents/comments/XTS/follow-up_XTS_comments-Ball.pdf
>
> Yes, final version is not available but draft specification is still there
> (this is IEEE business, not hiding algorithm definition IMHO).
Have a link to it?
Seriously, I suspect XTS is fine, but not finding the description
and detailed security analysis online bothers me more than a bit.
> Just please note one thing, which is dm-crypt special here:
>
> default "plain IV" is 32 bit only, so if anyone uses it on >2TB partition
> some sectors shares IV (IV generator restarts, opening it to to watermarking
> and similar attacks).
That was the thing with dm-crypt, yes.
> Please _always_ use plain64 (*aes-xts-plain64*) if you want use it for large
> devices. (plain64 produces the same IV for <2TB.
> Available since 2.6.33, Truecrypt 7 already does that, thanks:-)
Ok. Will put that in the FAQ in a few days.
Arno
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-25 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-22 14:57 [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB David Santamaría Rogado
2010-07-25 10:34 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 11:18 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 12:29 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-07-25 12:25 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-25 13:14 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 13:52 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-25 22:37 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 0:14 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26 20:38 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 8:46 ` [dm-crypt] Using plain64/plain IV (initialisation vector) in dm-crypt Milan Broz
2010-07-27 10:47 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 14:17 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 16:08 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 14:15 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 15:45 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 15:55 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-27 18:59 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 19:37 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 18:58 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 19:35 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-28 8:42 ` Milan Broz
2010-08-20 21:11 ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-21 0:22 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-22 12:50 ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations (FAQ additions) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-23 0:46 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-25 9:36 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-22 12:56 ` [dm-crypt] tool to account the written number of bytes to a block device (was: XTS cipher mode limitations) Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-22 16:01 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-22 21:57 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-23 7:14 ` [dm-crypt] tool to account the written number of bytes to a block device Milan Broz
2010-08-25 9:27 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-24 16:19 ` [dm-crypt] XTS cipher mode limitations Ramius
2010-07-26 8:53 ` [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 20:47 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:01 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 21:28 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:35 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 22:52 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 9:42 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-26 18:09 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-27 18:16 ` [dm-crypt] Including the FAQ in the tarball? Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 18:23 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-29 8:17 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-07-25 15:32 ` [dm-crypt] Efficacy of xts over 1TB Arno Wagner
2010-07-25 22:48 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 23:42 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26 18:35 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-25 15:28 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2010-07-25 18:11 ` Milan Broz
2010-07-26 9:04 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 18:21 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-27 21:02 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-26 9:17 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 18:42 ` David Santamaría Rogado
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-25 22:25 Ietf Nist
2010-07-25 22:41 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:07 Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 21:31 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 21:45 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 21:42 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-07-26 22:55 ` Arno Wagner
2010-07-26 23:42 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-07-27 10:21 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-15 17:26 ` Uwe Menges
2010-08-15 22:10 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-16 11:44 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2010-08-16 12:39 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-16 12:55 ` octane indice
2010-08-16 14:21 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-21 20:45 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2010-08-21 23:14 ` Arno Wagner
2010-08-22 0:46 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
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