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From: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:56:01 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328135601.GO19007@uudg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1301318293.4859.19.camel@twins>

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
| On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 10:10 -0300, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
| > | There was meaningless code in there. I guess it was in there from CFS.
| > | Thanks for the explanation, Peter.
| > 
| > Yes, it was CFS related:
| > 
| >         p = find_lock_task_mm(p);
| >         ...
| >         p->rt.time_slice = HZ; <<---- THIS
| 
| CFS has never used rt.time_slice, that's always been a pure SCHED_RR
| thing.
| 
| > Peter, would that be effective to boost the priority of the dying task?
| 
| The thing you're currently doing, making it SCHED_FIFO ?

I meant the p->rt.time_slice line, but you already answered my question.
Thanks :)
 
| > I mean, in the context of SCHED_OTHER tasks would it really help the dying
| > task to be scheduled sooner to release its resources? 
| 
| That very much depends on how all this stuff works, I guess if everybody
| serializes on OOM and only the first will actually kill a task and all
| the waiting tasks will try to allocate a page again before also doing
| the OOM thing, and the pending tasks are woken after the OOM target task
| has completed dying.. then I don't see much point in boosting things,
| since everybody interested in memory will block and eventually only the
| dying task will be left running.
| 
| Its been a very long while since I stared at the OOM code..
| 
| > If so, as we remove
| > the code in commit 93b43fa5508 we should re-add that old code. 
| 
| It doesn't make any sense to fiddle with rt.time_slice afaict.
---end quoted text---

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[ Luis Claudio R. Goncalves             Red Hat  -  Realtime Team ]
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From: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:56:01 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328135601.GO19007@uudg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1301318293.4859.19.camel@twins>

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:18:13PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
| On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 10:10 -0300, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
| > | There was meaningless code in there. I guess it was in there from CFS.
| > | Thanks for the explanation, Peter.
| > 
| > Yes, it was CFS related:
| > 
| >         p = find_lock_task_mm(p);
| >         ...
| >         p->rt.time_slice = HZ; <<---- THIS
| 
| CFS has never used rt.time_slice, that's always been a pure SCHED_RR
| thing.
| 
| > Peter, would that be effective to boost the priority of the dying task?
| 
| The thing you're currently doing, making it SCHED_FIFO ?

I meant the p->rt.time_slice line, but you already answered my question.
Thanks :)
 
| > I mean, in the context of SCHED_OTHER tasks would it really help the dying
| > task to be scheduled sooner to release its resources? 
| 
| That very much depends on how all this stuff works, I guess if everybody
| serializes on OOM and only the first will actually kill a task and all
| the waiting tasks will try to allocate a page again before also doing
| the OOM thing, and the pending tasks are woken after the OOM target task
| has completed dying.. then I don't see much point in boosting things,
| since everybody interested in memory will block and eventually only the
| dying task will be left running.
| 
| Its been a very long while since I stared at the OOM code..
| 
| > If so, as we remove
| > the code in commit 93b43fa5508 we should re-add that old code. 
| 
| It doesn't make any sense to fiddle with rt.time_slice afaict.
---end quoted text---

-- 
[ Luis Claudio R. Goncalves             Red Hat  -  Realtime Team ]
[ Fingerprint: 4FDD B8C4 3C59 34BD 8BE9  2696 7203 D980 A448 C8F8 ]

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-15  1:49 Linux 2.6.38 Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15  3:13 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  4:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15  4:14   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-15  4:29     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  4:33   ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-15  4:50     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15  6:21       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16  9:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:04           ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05             ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 14:49                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  5:21                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  5:21                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  6:59                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  6:59                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:13                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:13                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:24                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:24                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:44                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  9:02                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  9:02                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  2:11                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:11                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:21                               ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:21                                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:48                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:48                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  3:04                                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  3:04                                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  5:35                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:35                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  4:19                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  4:19                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:35                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:35                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:53                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:53                                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:16                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  6:16                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  6:32                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:32                                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:03                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:03                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:25                                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:25                                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:28                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:28                                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:34                                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:34                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:41               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:41                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:55                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:55                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06             ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:42               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40                 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-23 13:40                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24  0:06                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  0:06                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:27                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:48                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28  9:48                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:51                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28  9:51                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:21                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:28                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:40                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10                         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:10                           ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-28 13:18                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:18                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56                             ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves [this message]
2011-03-28 13:56                               ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29  2:46                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-29  2:46                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:48                             ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08             ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 23:21                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  1:27                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  1:27                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  2:41                   ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-23  2:41                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08             ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:08               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:44               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:44                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:04                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09             ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:09               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:49               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:49                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  8:09                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-23 14:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 15:10                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:13                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 17:34                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28  7:00                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28  7:00                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-15 21:08       ` Linux 2.6.38 Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 23:32         ` unnecessary oom killer panics in 2.6.38 (was Re: Linux 2.6.38) David Rientjes
2011-03-15  3:14 ` Linux 2.6.38 Steven Rostedt
2011-03-15  4:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-16 17:30 ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-16 19:22   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:22     ` Jiri Slaby
2011-03-16 19:43   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Chris Wilson
2011-03-16 21:09     ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 Melchior FRANZ
2011-03-20 18:30   ` i915/kms regression after 2.6.38-rc8 (was: Re: Linux 2.6.38) Maciej Rutecki

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