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From: Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>
To: Marco Chiappero <marco@absence.it>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/25] sony-laptop: new SNC setup and cleanup functions
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:42:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110613134251.GA6119@kamineko.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DF5DABD.50505@absence.it>

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:39:09AM +0200, Marco Chiappero wrote:
> Il 13/06/2011 03:28, Mattia Dongili ha scritto:
> >On Mon, June 13, 2011 2:01 am, Marco Chiappero wrote:
> >>Il 13/06/2011 00:21, Mattia Dongili ha scritto:
...
> This way of writing is for me annoying, I don't care who you think

Let's try to lower the tone of emails. Maybe I missed a couple of
smilies here and there but hostility doesn't help anyone. :)

...
> >>>I'd rather not have
> >>>this check here.
> >>
> >>Avoiding this check here seems a logical error to me: it's basically the
> >>entry point (and the first thing to look at when calling the setup
> >>method SN00), maybe revealing info about the device and the action to be
> >>taken about this device, I can't see why we'd better skip this step,
> >>that doesn't hurt, just because at the moment almost every notebook
> >>won't fail.
> >
> >the string never changes and there seems to be no logic associated to it
> >in the DSDT.
> 
> Well, maybe. Or maybe not. Every year lots of new models are
> launched, and every model comes with it... why should they bring a

Apparently not. Vaio Y doesn't have that string hardcoded in the DSDT.

Again, not initializing the driver because a string doesn't match
SncSupported seems wrong. Especially given that if the string is there
or not makes no difference to us.
On the other hand I have nothing against fetching the string value
and printing some debug statement if really we can't just ignore it.

> useless information? The fact that at the moment we have basically
> only one string it doesn't assure that there is no logic.
> 
> >If the string is changed in some bios revision or gets removed you have to
> >change the driver.
> 
> Yes, it's surely the right thing to do:
> - if it removed and nothing changes, well, we have the proof that
> this string is not relevant for Sony too, so it's likely to be
> useless (at least, today, maybe it was the past). As far as I can
> say every model I've seen do have this string, so it doesn't seem
> the case.
> - if it changes we will immediately have the chance to find out if
> something else has changed too. But again, this change is likely to
> have a meaning that we should try to discover.

The net result is that a large part of the SNC driver doesn't
initialize, how is that the right thing to do?
Again, we know how to discover and use handles, that's enough for now as
far as we know.
-- 
mattia
:wq!

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-13 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-03 15:22 [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/25] sony-laptop: use usigned data type when calling ACPI methods Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:28 ` [PATCH 2/25] sony-laptop: simple_strtoul replaced by strict_strtoul Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 21:56   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/25] sony-laptop: new ACPI SN06 method helper functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:32 ` [PATCH 4/25] sony-laptop: new SNC setup and cleanup functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:21   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13  0:01     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13  1:28       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13  9:39         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13 13:42           ` Mattia Dongili [this message]
2011-06-13 14:10             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 22:50               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 23:06       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-28  9:27         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-28 10:04           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 10:54             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-13 22:19               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-14 22:05                 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-07-18 14:49                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 22:03                     ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 13:49     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH 5/25] sony-laptop: new handles " Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 6/25] sony-laptop: new notebook controller resume function Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:36 ` [PATCH 7/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_function_setup modifications Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:38 ` [PATCH 8/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_notify rewritten and improved Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:43   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:26     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:38       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:23         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 12:42           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:45             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 14:00         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:30           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 12:42     ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:22       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:30         ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:34           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:36             ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:42               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:45                 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 15:04                   ` Corentin Chary
2011-06-04 16:50                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 20:22                 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 17:48                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 19:14                     ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 20:13                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:39 ` [PATCH 9/25] sony-laptop: sony_walk_callback moved for better readability Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:41 ` [PATCH 10/25] sony-laptop: keyboard backlight support extended to newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  7:58   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:30     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 11:23       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:41         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:33           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:27             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-10 12:31     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:24       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 14:28         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18  4:15           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:42 ` [PATCH 11/25] sony-laptop: rfkill improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  7:59   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:43 ` [PATCH 12/25] sony-laptop: input core improvements improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:07   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:42     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:44       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 12:44         ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 13:11         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-08  8:26       ` Joey Lee
2011-06-08  8:26         ` Joey Lee
2011-06-04 15:21     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:40       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:40         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:58         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:58           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:24           ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:26             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 14:23               ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 15:15                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:24                   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:59                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 13:53                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 11:12                         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 12:50                           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:03                             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 14:09                               ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:20                                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:06                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 15:11                                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:53                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 16:12                                         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:26                         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:45 ` [PATCH 13/25] sony-laptop: code style fixes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:46 ` [PATCH 14/25] sony-laptop: battery care functionality added Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:33 ` [PATCH 15/25] sony-laptop: add thermal control feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:45 ` [PATCH 16/25] sony-laptop: add HDD shock protection Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/25] sony-laptop: add resume from S4/S3 when opening the lid Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:02 ` [PATCH 18/25] sony-laptop: add control file for the HighSpeed Charging feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:23   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 20:33     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 21:00       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 21:46         ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 22:12           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-04  1:54             ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  7:09               ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:15                 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:28                     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:28 ` [PATCH 20/25] sony-laptop: add fan related controls Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:50 ` [PATCH 21/25] sony-laptop: add optical device power control Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 19:27 ` [PATCH 22/25] sony-laptop: forward Hybrid GFX notifications to userspace Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:48   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 21:12     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:50       ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 19:49 ` [PATCH 23/25] sony-laptop: add ALS support Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05  5:31   ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-05 22:21     ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06  7:41       ` Javier Achirica
2011-06-06 13:08         ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:51           ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 22:24             ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 23:26               ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:07                 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:50                   ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 22:39                     ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-08  9:52                       ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 24/25] sony-laptop: backlight device changes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 25/25] sony-laptop: update copyright owners Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04  8:54 ` [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Mattia Dongili

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