From: Marco Chiappero <marco@absence.it>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:46:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE9563F.9010503@absence.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106031400.36141.dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Il 03/06/2011 23:00, Dmitry Torokhov ha scritto:
> The issue with that that we are breeding myriad of quirks
Where is the quirk? If many vendors provide the same feature let's
create a common interface for that.
> that nobody
> knows about
This is false, especially for (so many) people using Windows too, where
the feature is clearly visible by the OEM software.
> and nobody ever uses.
Again, this is false, and I don't think you can speak for everybody.
> X provides standardized way of
> ignoring input devices.
Let's create a standardized solution, instead of using a standardized hack.
> It is also more transparent than "I once wrote
> something to some sysfs file and I completely forgot about this but
> now my touchpad does not work".
The problem does not lie in the sysfs file, lies in the lack of
userspace software for it (BTW, about this case someone already created
a Vaio specific GUI for an easy control of these features).
> There were quite a few bugs filed just
> because users pressed key that cuts power to touchpad and stores the
> state across reboots.
It's very much like saying that we should not produce cars because some
people use them improperly and crash. People doing wrong things will
always be present, we can improve userspace software to help them
instead, not just delete features they payed for (and they wanted to
use, at least once as you say).
>> (and why should we suppose that X will be used always and
>> forever?).
>
> We should not but replacement should have at least the same functionality
> if not better.
I agree, but this doesn't necessarily mean it will use an hack again.
It's a common and widespread feature, let's support it better instead of
just removing it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-03 21:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-03 15:22 [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:26 ` [PATCH 1/25] sony-laptop: use usigned data type when calling ACPI methods Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:28 ` [PATCH 2/25] sony-laptop: simple_strtoul replaced by strict_strtoul Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 21:56 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/25] sony-laptop: new ACPI SN06 method helper functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:32 ` [PATCH 4/25] sony-laptop: new SNC setup and cleanup functions Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:21 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 0:01 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13 1:28 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 9:39 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-13 13:42 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 14:10 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 22:50 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 23:06 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-28 9:27 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-28 10:04 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 10:54 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-13 22:19 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-14 22:05 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-07-18 14:49 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 22:03 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 13:49 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:33 ` [PATCH 5/25] sony-laptop: new handles " Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:35 ` [PATCH 6/25] sony-laptop: new notebook controller resume function Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:36 ` [PATCH 7/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_function_setup modifications Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:38 ` [PATCH 8/25] sony-laptop: sony_nc_notify rewritten and improved Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 8:43 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:26 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:38 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:23 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 12:42 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:45 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 14:00 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:30 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 12:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:22 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:34 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:36 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:42 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 14:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 15:04 ` Corentin Chary
2011-06-04 16:50 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 20:22 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 17:48 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 19:14 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-05 20:13 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:39 ` [PATCH 9/25] sony-laptop: sony_walk_callback moved for better readability Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:41 ` [PATCH 10/25] sony-laptop: keyboard backlight support extended to newer Vaios Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 7:58 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:30 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 11:23 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:41 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:33 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 12:27 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-10 12:31 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-12 22:24 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-13 14:28 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-18 4:15 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:42 ` [PATCH 11/25] sony-laptop: rfkill improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 7:59 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:43 ` [PATCH 12/25] sony-laptop: input core improvements improvements Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 8:07 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 10:42 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 12:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 13:11 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-08 8:26 ` Joey Lee
2011-06-08 8:26 ` Joey Lee
2011-06-04 15:21 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:40 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:40 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 16:58 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 16:58 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 22:24 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:26 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 14:23 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 15:15 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:24 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:59 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-20 13:53 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 11:12 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 12:50 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:03 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 14:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 14:20 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 15:11 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-01 15:53 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-07-01 16:12 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:26 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 15:45 ` [PATCH 13/25] sony-laptop: code style fixes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 15:46 ` [PATCH 14/25] sony-laptop: battery care functionality added Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:33 ` [PATCH 15/25] sony-laptop: add thermal control feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:45 ` [PATCH 16/25] sony-laptop: add HDD shock protection Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 17:54 ` [PATCH 17/25] sony-laptop: add resume from S4/S3 when opening the lid Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:02 ` [PATCH 18/25] sony-laptop: add control file for the HighSpeed Charging feature Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 19/25] sony-laptop: add touchpad enable/disable control file Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 20:33 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 21:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-03 21:46 ` Marco Chiappero [this message]
2011-06-03 22:12 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-06-04 1:54 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 7:09 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-04 11:15 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 12:46 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-04 14:28 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:28 ` [PATCH 20/25] sony-laptop: add fan related controls Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 18:50 ` [PATCH 21/25] sony-laptop: add optical device power control Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 19:27 ` [PATCH 22/25] sony-laptop: forward Hybrid GFX notifications to userspace Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 8:48 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-20 21:12 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-07-19 21:50 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-03 19:49 ` [PATCH 23/25] sony-laptop: add ALS support Marco Chiappero
2011-06-05 5:31 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-05 22:21 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 7:41 ` Javier Achirica
2011-06-06 13:08 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 13:51 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-06 22:24 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-06 23:26 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 16:07 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-07 17:50 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-07 22:39 ` Mattia Dongili
2011-06-08 9:52 ` Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 24/25] sony-laptop: backlight device changes Marco Chiappero
2011-06-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 25/25] sony-laptop: update copyright owners Marco Chiappero
2011-06-04 8:54 ` [PATCH 0/25] sony-laptop: code improvements and support extension for newer Vaios Mattia Dongili
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